[AdamB]

So Biden reveals high gas prices are deliberate policy to drive the transfer to green energy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ory=foryou
I paid $4.80/ gallon yesterday.

When referencing the MAGA news channel, can you at least provide the point in the video where the claim you are making was made, so we don't need to have our minds turned to mush with all the other indoctrination provided along the way?

[ROCKMAN]

Just one more anecdote about college degrees. Time line: 1970. After first year apply for geology degree at Un. of New Orleans. Called into office and asked if I understood almost no jobs out there. Didn't care...just found it interesting. All the profs there had been laid off from oil companies in the 60's and went back to school for Phds so they could teach others that wouldn't get jobs. LOL. But true. Only 60 geology majors in entire department. Jump to 1975 and getting Masters from Texas A&M. Remember boom in oil prices around that time? Oil companies flew me all around for job interviews even though they knew they would offer me a job with big $. Jump to 1981: almost 300 geology majors in dept: and not one got a job offer upon graduating. Remember oil price bust at that time. Me? High and low paying jobs for next 30 years an oil prices swung. And if I could get a job at all. Last 10 years> great job making very big $. Until oil prices collapsed big time. Fortunately retired at that time.

So what is a college degree worth? Pick a subject and a time frame. And hope you pick right, grasshopper.

[AdamB]

So what is a college degree worth? Pick a subject and a time frame. And hope you pick right, grasshopper.

Alternatively....take industry experience and flee industry (right before a price crash, if you can manage it). Take a gig as geoscientist with no dependency on oil or gas prices. Whine like everyone else when gas prices are high, because you don't get bonuses related to that commodity price anymore.

[vtsnowedin]

So Biden reveals high gas prices are deliberate policy to drive the transfer to green energy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ory=foryou
I paid $4.80/ gallon yesterday.

When referencing the MAGA news channel, can you at least provide the point in the video where the claim you are making was made, so we don't need to have our minds turned to mush with all the other indoctrination provided along the way?

But I think you watching the whole segment might be good for you.

[AdamB]

So Biden reveals high gas prices are deliberate policy to drive the transfer to green energy.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ory=foryou
I paid $4.80/ gallon yesterday.

When referencing the MAGA news channel, can you at least provide the point in the video where the claim you are making was made, so we don't need to have our minds turned to mush with all the other indoctrination provided along the way?

But I think you watching the whole segment might be good for you.

Well, if by "good for me" you mean "my church is looking for converts and if our programming can knock off a few IQ points every time someone watchs us they are more likely to support out dogma" then..okay...fine...I guess. Can you give me a clue as to the length of this particular indoctrination piece so I need to know how much time I need to find in schedule for it?

[AdamB]

$4.85/gallon of regular 87 octane unleaded, Herkimer NY.

Solid $5+ across various places on the western half of Long Island.

Will begin investigating some Vermont prices tomorrow.

[JuanP]

Just one more anecdote about college degrees. Time line: 1970. After first year apply for geology degree at Un. of New Orleans. Called into office and asked if I understood almost no jobs out there. Didn't care...just found it interesting. All the profs there had been laid off from oil companies in the 60's and went back to school for Phds so they could teach others that wouldn't get jobs. LOL. But true. Only 60 geology majors in entire department. Jump to 1975 and getting Masters from Texas A&M. Remember boom in oil prices around that time? Oil companies flew me all around for job interviews even though they knew they would offer me a job with big $. Jump to 1981: almost 300 geology majors in dept: and not one got a job offer upon graduating. Remember oil price bust at that time. Me? High and low paying jobs for next 30 years an oil prices swung. And if I could get a job at all. Last 10 years> great job making very big $. Until oil prices collapsed big time. Fortunately retired at that time.

So what is a college degree worth? Pick a subject and a time frame. And hope you pick right, grasshopper.

ROCKMAN
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Congratulations on your 14th anniversary as a member of this forum, Rockman!
I have learnt much from you through the years and always look forward to reading your posts. I am very glad that you still hang around here.

[Plantagenet]

Just one more anecdote about college degrees. Time line: 1970. After first year apply for geology degree at Un. of New Orleans. Called into office and asked if I understood almost no jobs out there. Didn't care...just found it interesting. All the profs there had been laid off from oil companies in the 60's and went back to school for Phds so they could teach others that wouldn't get jobs. LOL. But true. Only 60 geology majors in entire department. Jump to 1975 and getting Masters from Texas A&M. Remember boom in oil prices around that time? Oil companies flew me all around for job interviews even though they knew they would offer me a job with big $. Jump to 1981: almost 300 geology majors in dept: and not one got a job offer upon graduating. Remember oil price bust at that time. Me? High and low paying jobs for next 30 years an oil prices swung. And if I could get a job at all. Last 10 years> great job making very big $. Until oil prices collapsed big time. Fortunately retired at that time.

So what is a college degree worth? Pick a subject and a time frame. And hope you pick right, grasshopper.

ROCKMAN
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Posts: 11343
Joined: Tue 27 May 2008, 03:00:00
Location: TEXAS

Congratulations on your 14th anniversary as a member of this forum, Rockman!
I have learnt much from you through the years and always look forward to reading your posts. I am very glad that you still hang around here.

Please allow me to add my congratulations to you Rockman on your 14th anniversary as a PEAKOILER.com



Hope things are going great for you this beautiful spring.

Cheers!

[vtsnowedin]

So it is Memorial day weekend and one out of every eight Americans (40,000,000) will be driving to a destination and back using $4.60+/-gas. Some will stop and put flowers or a flag on the graves of Family members that died for our freedom. And over the three days there will be a lot of backyard Bar-B-Ques where the meat and other food cost a lot more then it did last year.
I have to think that a lot of average guys after they have run the grill and fed their hoard will sit back by the fire while the kids toast marsh mellows or eat water melon with a cold beer in one hand and perhaps a burger in the other and contemplate about how thin his wallet has become.
I also think most of them will know where to place the blame and plan to get by as best they can until they can vote out the problem.

[JuanP]

So it is Memorial day weekend and one out of every eight Americans (40,000,000) will be driving to a destination and back using $4.60+/-gas. Some will stop and put flowers or a flag on the graves of Family members that died for our freedom. And over the three days there will be a lot of backyard Bar-B-Ques where the meat and other food cost a lot more then it did last year.
I have to think that a lot of average guys after they have run the grill and fed their hoard will sit back by the fire while the kids toast marsh mellows or eat water melon with a cold beer in one hand and perhaps a burger in the other and contemplate about how thin his wallet has become.
I also think most of them will know where to place the blame and plan to get by as best they can until they can vote out the problem.

While my wife and I are not yet Americans (we just applied for US citizenship), we will be traveling tomorrow to celebrate with American friends and family, eat a backyard BBQ, and drink a cold one. We may also vote in the coming elections, too! We were talking about the cost for our hosts just this morning.

[theluckycountry]

I also think most of them will know where to place the blame and plan to get by as best they can until they can vote out the problem.

Sorry, but you can't vote out peak oil, which is obviously the cause for the rapid escalation in prices (across the globe). We always knew that when a civilization that is totally dependent on oil coal and gas saw the availability of it decrease, the price would go up and cause havoc in the relative sectors.

The demand destruction caused by the global overreaction to the magic virus was breathtaking and I think these fuel increases, blamed on the 'magic' war in the Ukraine will have the same effect. I say magic war because when the US invaded Afghanistan and Iraq in the early 2000's, no one batted an eyelid, and it was all uphill for consumption globally. Now Russia pulls the same stunt and it's Woe unto us, it's wrecking the world lol. Ahhh you gotta love the western media.

[vtsnowedin]

While my wife and I are not yet Americans (we just applied for US citizenship), we will be traveling tomorrow to celebrate with American friends and family, eat a backyard BBQ, and drink a cold one. We may also vote in the coming elections, too! We were talking about the cost for our hosts just this morning.

Remember you have to finish becoming citizens before you can vote here (with a couple of exceptions). Stay on the right side of the law it is not hard.

[vtsnowedin]

Sorry, but you can't vote out peak oil,

Well you can vote out a false peak oil caused by political decisions not geology.
We will get to a real peak oil (or perhaps peak demand) some day but not this decade.

[theluckycountry]

Well you can vote out a false peak oil caused by political decisions not geology.
We will get to a real peak oil (or perhaps peak demand) some day but not this decade.

The real peak oil was in 2007~8 as predicted, all the production activity since has just been licking slops up off the bar at closing time. For all practical purposes there is only one peak, the global peak after which industrial civilization in aggregate begins to decline due to limited access to oil. Perhaps you haven't driven across your nation of late? Not surprising since the roads and bridges are falling into dangerous disrepair. You built with oil, now you collapse without sufficient supplies of it.

[AdamB]

$4.89/gal for regular unleaded in Burlington Vermont.

Hotel inflation is bothering me more than fuel prices, folks fleeing to the Adirondacks for the holiday weekend have driven hotel prices bonkers, if rooms are even available.

[AdamB]

Well you can vote out a false peak oil caused by political decisions not geology.
We will get to a real peak oil (or perhaps peak demand) some day but not this decade.

The real peak oil was in 2007~8 as predicted.....

What about the predicted one in 1990 and 1995? And 2002? And 2005? And 2006? Gee....seems like someone is being awful choosey about one prediction or another, when the current peak oil is 2018, and was indeed a peak oil. Folks that can't build cars probably can't understand numbers and all either maybe?

Perhaps you haven't driven across your nation of late? Not surprising since the roads and bridges are falling into dangerous disrepair. You built with oil, now you collapse without sufficient supplies of it.

I've been roaming across 3/4's of the L48 going on my second week now. Roads are in pretty good shape (NY has some crappy ones though, but VT was pretty decent), all the bridges worked including some big ones into and out of NYC, crossing the Mississippi and Missouri, etc etc.

As the world's largest producer of crude oil and natural gas, obviously we have plenty, more than your pipsqueak oil and gas production anyway. I think a single formation in the Appalachian basin makes more natural gas than your country after how many decades now have you been trying to learn how to produce natural gas? Sounds like you need to hire some Merikans to teach you what exceptionalism looks like when it comes to results.

After we build your submarines for you of course, folks living on an island not apparntly knowing much about boats and water and buoyancy and stuff.

[Tanada]

My closest Meijer gas station has dropped all the way to $4.269/gallon. That is better than a couple weeks ago which is kind of a surprise as I was expecting another hike for the Memorial Day Weekend traffic. Guess they plan to make up for it in volume?

[vtsnowedin]

My closest Meijer gas station has dropped all the way to $4.269/gallon. That is better than a couple weeks ago which is kind of a surprise as I was expecting another hike for the Memorial Day Weekend traffic. Guess they plan to make up for it in volume?

Would that be Canadian supplied gas or Oklahoma/Cushing? About a third of Gas in Vermont comes down from Canada as one chain gas station owns shares in a refinery near Montreal.

[AdamB]

My closest Meijer gas station has dropped all the way to $4.269/gallon. That is better than a couple weeks ago which is kind of a surprise as I was expecting another hike for the Memorial Day Weekend traffic. Guess they plan to make up for it in volume?

Would that be Canadian supplied gas or Oklahoma/Cushing? About a third of Gas in Vermont comes down from Canada as one chain gas station owns shares in a refinery near Montreal.

Is there an easy way to tell? I bought gas in Burlington from a Shell station, probably closer as traveled on roads to the Canadian border than where Tanada lives, assuming Tanada lives about where I think they do.

[Tanada]

My closest Meijer gas station has dropped all the way to $4.269/gallon. That is better than a couple weeks ago which is kind of a surprise as I was expecting another hike for the Memorial Day Weekend traffic. Guess they plan to make up for it in volume?

Would that be Canadian supplied gas or Oklahoma/Cushing? About a third of Gas in Vermont comes down from Canada as one chain gas station owns shares in a refinery near Montreal.

Is there an easy way to tell? I bought gas in Burlington from a Shell station, probably closer as traveled on roads to the Canadian border than where Tanada lives, assuming Tanada lives about where I think they do.

It is no secret that I live slightly southwest of Toledo, OH. Toledo has a pretty good size refinery right on the Maumee river that gets in tankers now and then. They also get in tanker trucks from various small producers around the area. I used to know a fellow who part time drove trucks delivering oil from small producers to the refinery as a side job from his regular work delivering funeral supplies to cemeteries. Back between 2005-2008 he seriously considered switching to doing it full time because some of the regional producers were investing in reworking their tired old fields with water injection systems to stimulate production. Nothing big or fancy, just pumping water from a saline deep layer up and pouring it back down an old oil well in the middle of several other wells. Then the fracking craze took off in eastern Ohio and investment money dried up over night. Not many of those nodding donkey's I see across crop fields as I drive for appointments or errands are even pumping the last few years. Unofficially they are still in place because if they scrap the surface kit the state makes them have the well sealed in proper bureaucratic paperwork inspected fashion.