[Russian_Cowboy]

I am sorry that poor dear Europe realized that it could not blackmail Russia into giving away its natural gas for free when Russia slapped down the freeloader known as Ukraine.

That's the first time I've ever read anything about the Russian gas situation that characterized Russia as the victim. Only on peakoil.com do you get these bizarro-world analyses.

Russia is indeed a victim of its stupid politicians. As a result, Europe is trying to wean itself off of Russian gas. And this decision is purely political. Russia's gas exports to EU fell by 30 percent this year compared to the last one. LNG, wind, geothermal, gas from rotting sewage and waste, etc - are slowly replacing Russian gas in Europe And the EU government is subsidizing this process, just like Russia used to subsidize its friends by giving them gas at almost no charge.

[americandream]

The whole notion that America's evolution into an intangibles based economy is a failure in contrast to China's rise in manufacturing misses precisely the point the each of those two are doing what they should given their skillsets and cost margins. Have the Russians missed this fact or are they plainly pissed off that they have been left out of the equation for not having anything to contribute to it other than oil? I don't think its either. Russia will play its part in the new global economy, albeit at a more modest level. The Russian elite know this. The nationalist and Euro stuff is for the disgruntled masses who must be placated whilst this transition occurs.

Does this leaflet you copypasted from have English edition? No? What is it, "Evening Shitholsk"?
So whose economy the author is talking about that has 60% of GDP in services-- Russia's?

Anyways, kudos to Google translator. Its not as horrible as I thought it is

This is because the Federal Security Service of Russia is only spending $3 million a year on online propaganda. What you are reading here is the usual Russian government-sponsored brainwash to tell its subjects that they are indeed better off than Americans. We have heard this crap during the USSR's times and there is not much new here. The only difference is that this time the US is supposed to die not due to the marxist conflict between labor and capital, but due to its "structural imbalances" meaning that the service sector in the US is too big, but the industrial one is too small. This fact is supposed to make it hard for the US to service its foreign debt and thus will lead to bankruptcy.

[dissident]

For a clown spouting about Russian propaganda, you sure make yourself look like an idiot with the comment about Georgia, Cowboy. NATO citizenry supported the attack on Serbia in 1999. You seem to think that Sakashvili's attack on civilians in the middle of the night (August 7th, 2008) is some sort of holy thing. You know, indiscriminately shelling cities is something true democrats get to do and should be lauded for, according to you. Please tell us all about the thousands of Georgian civilians killed by the Russians, I dare you. NATO killed 3000 Serbs and Albanians in 1999. Just a while back NATO killed 90 Afghans while taking out a couple of stolen fuel tankers and the NATO response was "sh*t happens".

BTW, the incorporation of South Ossetia into Georgia is the product of the communist abuse of power. It simply has no legal merit. Georgia lost its chance to rule it when Ghamsakurdia launched his ethnic cleansing campaign in the early 1990s. Sakashvili's attempt to grab it again got the response it deserved.

[evgeny]

U.S. budget deficit set a new absolute record

U.S. Congressional Budget Office (CBO) has published data the federal budget deficit for 2009 fiscal year ended September 30, transmits Associated Press.

According to CBO, the U.S. budget deficit amounted to 1.4 trillion dollars The main reason for such a large deficit has become a global economic crisis and its consequences in America.

In particular, analysts point to a decrease in tax revenues that has occurred because of the recession, 245 billion dollars of investment to saving the financial system, $ 200 billion spent on general measures to stimulate the economy and the purchase of mortgage brokers Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

Thus, the budget deficit on the basis of the current year will be the most significant since the Second World War. Previous "record" was set in 2008. and amounted to 459 billion dollars

The Road to Hell

[evgeny]

evgeny, do you subscribe to Mackinder's Heartland Theory?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartland_Theory

People's from Europe and Russia don't want control this world, they want to Leave In Peace.They just tired from a bloody wars.

I guess that's why so many Russians supported Russia's last year attack on Georgia.

1. It's was not atack of Georgia
2. We just defend your brothers in Ossetia.
3. Next time gonna go the same way.


We are not afraid to fight.
We just tired from this fights.
We have better things to do.

[evgeny]

I am sorry that poor dear Europe realized that it could not blackmail Russia into giving away its natural gas for free when Russia slapped down the freeloader known as Ukraine.

That's the first time I've ever read anything about the Russian gas situation that characterized Russia as the victim. Only on peakoil.com do you get these bizarro-world analyses.

Russia is indeed a victim of its stupid politicians. As a result, Europe is trying to wean itself off of Russian gas. And this decision is purely political. Russia's gas exports to EU fell by 30 percent this year compared to the last one. LNG, wind, geothermal, gas from rotting sewage and waste, etc - are slowly replacing Russian gas in Europe And the EU government is subsidizing this process, just like Russia used to subsidize its friends by giving them gas at almost no charge.

Good, Russia need to cut production of gas and oil.
We can save some for your children.

[Pretorian]

Does this leaflet you copypasted from have English edition? No? What is it, "Evening Shitholsk"?
So whose economy the author is talking about that has 60% of GDP in services-- Russia's?

Anyways, kudos to Google translator. Its not as horrible as I thought it is

This is because the Federal Security Service of Russia is only spending $3 million a year on online propaganda. What you are reading here is the usual Russian government-sponsored brainwash to tell its subjects that they are indeed better off than Americans. We have heard this crap during the USSR's times and there is not much new here.

You must admit they are doing an excellent job. Do you remember anybody hating USA in 1970s, 1980s, even 1990-91? Yet every edition of every newspaper or a magazine contained caricatures of uncle Sam exploiting poor Negroes, churning out nukes and tanks, invading Grenada, helping Israel to kill Palestinian kids. Of course, US's behaviour since 1991 contributed big deal to the present state of affairs, but still.

[americandream]

I think all this "everyone hates the US nonsense is rather dramatic". Other than religious nutjobs and sore losers, I reckon most folks are either indifferent or not anti the US at all. You've only got to look at the inbound queues at your airports.

evgeny unfortunately yearns for a greatness that Russian elected to relinquish when it presided over the breakup of the Soviet superstate. Those days are gone. America was the only super-state left standing.

Does this leaflet you copypasted from have English edition? No? What is it, "Evening Shitholsk"?
So whose economy the author is talking about that has 60% of GDP in services-- Russia's?

Anyways, kudos to Google translator. Its not as horrible as I thought it is

This is because the Federal Security Service of Russia is only spending $3 million a year on online propaganda. What you are reading here is the usual Russian government-sponsored brainwash to tell its subjects that they are indeed better off than Americans. We have heard this crap during the USSR's times and there is not much new here.

You must admit they are doing an excellent job. Do you remember anybody hating USA in 1970s, 1980s, even 1990-91? Yet every edition of every newspaper or a magazine contained caricatures of uncle Sam exploiting poor Negroes, churning out nukes and tanks, invading Grenada, helping Israel to kill Palestinian kids. Of course, US's behaviour since 1991 contributed big deal to the present state of affairs, but still.

[evgeny]

I think all this "everyone hates the US nonsense is rather dramatic". Other than religious nutjobs and sore losers, I reckon most folks are either indifferent or not anti the US at all. You've only got to look at the inbound queues at your airports.

evgeny unfortunately yearns for a greatness that Russian elected to relinquish when it presided over the breakup of the Soviet superstate. Those days are gone. America was the only super-state left standing.

i don't hates Americans, i hates Americans politicians.

The Obama Deception
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

[Russian_Cowboy]

Does this leaflet you copypasted from have English edition? No? What is it, "Evening Shitholsk"?
So whose economy the author is talking about that has 60% of GDP in services-- Russia's?

Anyways, kudos to Google translator. Its not as horrible as I thought it is

This is because the Federal Security Service of Russia is only spending $3 million a year on online propaganda. What you are reading here is the usual Russian government-sponsored brainwash to tell its subjects that they are indeed better off than Americans. We have heard this crap during the USSR's times and there is not much new here.

You must admit they are doing an excellent job. Do you remember anybody hating USA in 1970s, 1980s, even 1990-91? Yet every edition of every newspaper or a magazine contained caricatures of uncle Sam exploiting poor Negroes, churning out nukes and tanks, invading Grenada, helping Israel to kill Palestinian kids. Of course, US's behaviour since 1991 contributed big deal to the present state of affairs, but still.

I cannot remember the 1970s due to my age, but I would venture further back into the 50s. Back then in USSR they genuinely hated the US without much effort on the part of the secret services.

Another reason, albeit very speculative and somewhat crazy to the outsiders, would be the Russian religious necro-cult of the "Great Victory" created by the Soviet propaganda about 30 yrs. ago to replace the cult of communism. By defeating the USSR in the Cold War, the US committed a blasphemy in the eyes of the Russians. Hence Russians' hate towards the US probably has a quasi-religious nature.

[Russian_Cowboy]

For a clown spouting about Russian propaganda, you sure make yourself look like an idiot with the comment about Georgia, Cowboy. NATO citizenry supported the attack on Serbia in 1999. You seem to think that Sakashvili's attack on civilians in the middle of the night (August 7th, 2008) is some sort of holy thing.

Offending somebody at the very beginning of a conversation is something so genuinely Russian

No, you are missing the point completely, I did not mean to defend the Americans, Georgians, etc. They are equally guilty. My point is that if people, Russians included, wanted peace, they would not fight wars. It is very simple.

As far as what happened in August 2008 goes, Russia was the aggressor because it did attack Georgia, but Georgia did not attack Russia. Since World War I, Russia was the aggressor in every single war it fought, including even the WWII where it attacked Poland, Finland, Romania, Sweden (submarine war), Iran and Japan.

[evgeny]

No, you are missing the point completely, I did not mean to defend the Americans, Georgians, etc. They are equally guilty. My point is that if people, Russians included, wanted peace, they would not fight wars. It is very simple.

As far as what happened in August 2008 goes, Russia was the aggressor because it did attack Georgia, but Georgia did not attack Russia. Since World War I, Russia was the aggressor in every single war it fought, including even the WWII where it attacked Poland, Finland, Romania, Sweden (submarine war), Iran and Japan.

The Real Aggressor
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2008 ... aggressor/

Georgia started South Ossetian war – report

01 October, 2009, 14:20

Georgia is responsible for unleashing the Five-Day War in the Caucasus last August, says an investigative report carried out by the EU.

The report was commissioned by the Council of the European Union. More than 30 European military, history and legal specialists – headed by Swiss diplomat Heidi Tagliavini – compiled the document. The group concluded that it was Georgia who fired the first shot and the opening attack was not justifiable under international law.

"In the opinion of the mission, Georgia provoked the war when it attacked Tskhinvali early on August 8, using heavy artillery," Commission chief Heidi Tagliavini said during the presentation of the report, Interfax news agency reports.

"Whoever will come to us with a sword, from a sword will perish"
Saint Alexander Nevsky(Grand Prince of Novgorod and Vladimir)(13th century)

[evgeny]

Russia Overtakes China in the Eurozone

In just 8 years – under Putin – Russia rapidly accelerated its trade growth with Europe. It is catching up to China’s position on the continent very quickly. To this author’s surprise, Russia is now ahead of China in some other key indicators of economic relations with Europe. This trend, if continued, will have beneficial security consequences, but will test the diplomatic skills of the United States.

According to a Eurostat report released in August 2009, the growth rate in Russia’s imports from Europe from 2001-2008 was twice the growth rate of China’s imports from Europe in the same period. In Euro terms, in 2008 the value of Russian imports from Europe exceeded the value of Chinese imports from the EU for the first year in the eight-year period.

The trend in foreign direct investment is similar. In the five years from 2004-2008, Russia overtook China both in terms of flows from the EU and into the EU.

In public opinion surveys in Europe in recent years, while the picture is mixed, Russia’s stocks appear to have risen while those of China have fallen. By 2009, only 29 per cent of Germans polled by the Pew Research Centre had a favorable view of China while 42 per cent had a favorable view of Russia. This was a gain for Russia of 8 per cent and decline for China of 3 per cent.

http://www.neurope.eu/articles/96681.php

[dissident]

Evgeny, the Russophobic EU politicians and their posturing on Russian natural gas is only going to hurt the EU. Russia loses nothing from exporting less to the EU. Supposed immediate income losses are more than offset by the high future price of natural gas due to scarcity. So the opportunity cost for Russia is to be selling it today for the ultra cheap "market" price (still about 40% the price of oil on a unit energy basis). Russian politicians should stop pandering to members of an aggressive, neo-imperialist alliance that treats Russia as its prime target. The only thing Russia should be offering NATO is more nukes aimed its way. The cold war never ended, NATO just got bolder in the last 20 years with a plan to surround Russia with pliant client states full of "defensive" missile systems designed to give the twits in Washington the illusion of nuclear invincibility.

[rangerone314]

I don't envy the position the Russians are in... they don't seem to know where they fit in the world, in some ways, a lot like Turkey (which is caught between the Western world and the Islamic world)

Is Russia going to be part of the European fold or are they going to be part of the Asian-Pacific fold with China?

I am not sure of the long term viability of American involvement with Europe. It seems like we have less and less in common with Europe and more in common with the rest of the Western hemisphere. Heck, we are eventually probably going to be bilingual.

I'm not sure the concept of the "Amero" that paranoid conspiracy theorists tout is actually such a bad idea. The dollar is going to eventually die anyway.

I say extend the Amero idea all the way to Argentina.

[Pretorian]

I. Other than religious nutjobs and sore losers, I reckon most folks are either indifferent or not anti the US at all.

you reckon, and we know.

[americandream]

Anyone wanting to push an agenda will come up with all sorts of fudged stats. America is the intellectual property greenhouse of global capitalism. It has the advantage of the Anglo-Saxon common law as the basis for its property law. America CHOSE to elect China as its offshore indistrial workshop. American along with much of Western European capital which after all is a significant fraction of Amertican capital are probably a lot more closely aligned than you think. I am more inclined to think that its these two who will absorb the as yet relatively immature Russian capitalist rather than the other way around.

Russia Overtakes China in the Eurozone

In just 8 years – under Putin – Russia rapidly accelerated its trade growth with Europe. It is catching up to China’s position on the continent very quickly. To this author’s surprise, Russia is now ahead of China in some other key indicators of economic relations with Europe. This trend, if continued, will have beneficial security consequences, but will test the diplomatic skills of the United States.

According to a Eurostat report released in August 2009, the growth rate in Russia’s imports from Europe from 2001-2008 was twice the growth rate of China’s imports from Europe in the same period. In Euro terms, in 2008 the value of Russian imports from Europe exceeded the value of Chinese imports from the EU for the first year in the eight-year period.

The trend in foreign direct investment is similar. In the five years from 2004-2008, Russia overtook China both in terms of flows from the EU and into the EU.

In public opinion surveys in Europe in recent years, while the picture is mixed, Russia’s stocks appear to have risen while those of China have fallen. By 2009, only 29 per cent of Germans polled by the Pew Research Centre had a favorable view of China while 42 per cent had a favorable view of Russia. This was a gain for Russia of 8 per cent and decline for China of 3 per cent.

http://www.neurope.eu/articles/96681.php

[americandream]

So why the griping? Like I said, drama queen!

I. Other than religious nutjobs and sore losers, I reckon most folks are either indifferent or not anti the US at all.

you reckon, and we know.

[evgeny]

Evgeny, the Russophobic EU politicians and their posturing on Russian natural gas is only going to hurt the EU. Russia loses nothing from exporting less to the EU. Supposed immediate income losses are more than offset by the high future price of natural gas due to scarcity. So the opportunity cost for Russia is to be selling it today for the ultra cheap "market" price (still about 40% the price of oil on a unit energy basis). Russian politicians should stop pandering to members of an aggressive, neo-imperialist alliance that treats Russia as its prime target. The only thing Russia should be offering NATO is more nukes aimed its way. The cold war never ended, NATO just got bolder in the last 20 years with a plan to surround Russia with pliant client states full of "defensive" missile systems designed to give the twits in Washington the illusion of nuclear invincibility.

Su-35 it's not bad too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7UEzKhx_fQ&feature=fvw

[evgeny]

Anyone wanting to push an agenda will come up with all sorts of fudged stats. America is the intellectual property greenhouse of global capitalism. It has the advantage of the Anglo-Saxon common law as the basis for its property law. America CHOSE to elect China as its offshore indistrial workshop. American along with much of Western European capital which after all is a significant fraction of Amertican capital are probably a lot more closely aligned than you think. I am more inclined to think that its these two who will absorb the as yet relatively immature Russian capitalist rather than the other way around.

America is the intellectual property greenhouse of global capitalism.
Global financial pyramid, none of the pyramid can exist forever.

America CHOSE to elect China as its offshore indistrial workshop.
What CHOSE China to do with U.S? they own U.S right now