[dinopello]

Good summary EnergyUnlimited.

Gravity is one of the most efficient energy storage mechanisms. I forget who, but some hollywood star uses pumped hydro storage on his island to store energy that during the day is generated by solar. The warping of spacetime is very powerful and useful to us already. Maybe someday we can figure out more of how to take advantage of it too.

[Serial_Worrier]

Imagine how much gravitational energy could be had from dropping all the Peak OIlers off a cliff?

[SeaGypsy]

Thanks EL How could I forget the MOON! Brilliant! VM will be most pleased.

[Crazy_Dad]

Is a pound of lead heavier than a pound of feathers? I can't see the original link but am I on the right track?

[MD]

Is a pound of lead heavier than a pound of feathers? I can't see the original link but am I on the right track?

No, but its terminal velocity in atmosphere is much much higher, unless said feathers are compressed into a ball the same size as the rock, then they will have approximately the same terminal velocity.

[MD]

Duh, couldn't we just push mountains down and harvest the falling energy? They're already up there.

Interesting thought there. Boulders bouncing down a slope is kinetic energy at its best. Lot's of mountains. Lot's of boulders. It would take quite a long time to level the playing field.

[GoIllini]

Guys, haven't you been paying attention?

1.) Dig hole to China.
2.) Drop pennies down.
3.) at 9.8 m/s^2, pennies exceed speed of light in ~30,000 seconds (9 hours)
4.) New interstellar space program! (Just need to figure out how to hit the brakes at 200x speed of light.)

[sitthican]

I would like to shair in all of you. Do you know about hammer shock that is free energy from gravity really detail as bellow.
http://www.renewable-green-energy.org/
Save world safe life, gravity power

[radon]

(Just need to figure out how to hit the brakes at 200x speed of light.)

Dig another hole in the opposite direction.
You owe me a share of the patent/Nobel's proceeds.

[agate]

Hello friends, nice post I liked to read it. Sounds like there are some very interesting stories there indeed. It must have took time gathering the research here and so well done. Great stuff!!!
However I would like to share that I am using services from http://www.pubinc.com they are providing cheaper electricity.

[Captain Thunderbolt]

http://pesn.com/2012/03/12/9602055_Hidr ... nt_Design/

OMG!


Inventor James Kwok claims that a one megawatt plant is under construction in Jakarta by the newly formed Indonesian company called Inter Pacific Energy Ltd. Also, a global master license has been purchased by Centium Electric Ltd.

About one year ago, I found news on the PESN website that presented the invention of James Kwok, an Australian engineer of Chinese origin, who claimed to have built a machine that provides free useful energy using only gravity and buoyancy.

This invention is particularly interesting because it doesn't suppose any new physical phenomena. It would work with normal laws of gravity and hydraulics. The old hypothesis that it could harness heat from ambient air has been disproved by the latest changes in the design.

For several months, there has been no change in James Kwok's website, but at the end of 2011 (which corresponds to Australian summer, by the way), some news emerged.
Changes in the Design

The current system claimed by Mr. Kwok is different from the first system that was shown in 2008 and it is called type B. The type B does not have the capsules that go up and down in the water column, instead the compressed air is used to spin a turbine connected to an alternator.

The system invented by James Kwok now appears clearly as a way to obtain continuous pulses of compressed air from a column of water using a system of pistons and valves, without depleting the water column. The compressed air can be used to generate electric power, as usual. Buoyancy has no role at all in this machine.

According to James Kwok's website, the type B system comes in a unit capable of generating 250 kW of electric power continuously. Four such units form a 1 MW plant.

James Kwok claims that a 1 MW plant is under construction in Jakarta by the newly formed Indonesian company called Inter Pacific Energy Ltd.

There are not photos of an existing system of this kind, only some drawings that provide few details. From the drawings, it can be seen that this system would be quite large, with the main tower more than 20 m tall: the cylinders seem to have a diameter of 1 m or larger, with valves being 70 cm in diameter. A structure housing this would be huge, costing many millions of dollars, even if the technology is standard engineering.

But there is another, bigger claim: the planned construction of a large power plant near Devonport, Tasmania. This plant would have a power output of 100 MW for the first year, and reach 1000 MW in three years. How is that possible with units of 250 kW each? It seems really unfeasible that this plant could be made of 4000 identical units of 250 kW each. There is no other information on James Kwok's website.

These are the two videos, made from CAD drawings and schematic simulations, published by Inter Pacific Energy Ltd. on YouTube in October 2011. The uploader of these videos is Nukidesign, the web agency that made the website of Inter Pacific Energy Ltd. [1 | 2]



Critics

My analysis of the system with the capsules that go up and down inside the water column didn't lead to a proof or to a disproof of Mr. Kwok's claims, but it showed me quite clearly that the capsules have no role at all in the generation of power; they are just a way to convert the energy of the compressed air into another form. The energy comes from the compressed air, and so it comes from the system of pistons and valves located at the base of the tower.

Now, the new system doesn't use the buoyant capsules anymore; they have disappeared completely, and the compressed air is used to spin a turbine connected to an alternator. This is a confirmation that the buoyant capsules are not fundamental.

But, if we had to find a way to exploit a source of compressed air, would we think of two alternating capsules that go up and down for the whole height of the water column? Of course the first idea would be to send the compressed air to a turbine. A turbine is perhaps the simplest way to use a source of compressed air, so why didn't Kwok think of it first, instead of building that complex system of moving capsules, linear electric generator etc..?

Being a researcher myself, though not in this particular field, I know that sometimes the path towards the best solution of a technical problem is not straightforward, and we often pass through many intermediate designs that are much more complex than needed. However, the wrong turn taken by Mr. Kwok is really huge, since he built a noticeable structure, which can be seen in the first videos of 2008, to test the type A system.

The current system can be described as a machine that uses the constant pressure originated by a column of water to compress air, and it does this without depleting the water column because the water is pushed back into the tank in some way at each cycle. The fact that the compressed air is then used to spin an alternator is of secondary importance. In fact, the jet of air directed to the turbine never inverts its motion, since the turbine rotates steadily in one direction.

Is it possible that an experienced engineer, which Mr. Kwok is, didn't find this solution to use the compressed air before? Is it possible that an engineer takes the route through the construction of buoyant capsules that go up and down vertically for 10 meters or more, just to convert the compressed air into rotational mechanical energy?

It would be interesting to ask Mr. Kwok if he knew about the possibility of using the compressed air directly since the beginning but he chose the system of buoyant capsules just because it was easier for him to build than a turbofan alternator. Perhaps he could not afford a suitable turbofan alternator to generate electric power in the demo plant and so he decided to use the moving capsules.

If Mr. Kwok didn't know that the buoyant capsules were just a way to convert the compressed air into rotational mechanical energy, then the invention of the Hidro+ system is just serendipitous, rather than the fruit of reasoning, because the only important piece of the machine is the system of pistons and valves that generate the compressed air without depleting the water from the tank. Such a system has nothing to do with buoyancy. If Mr. Kwok didn't start with the idea of such a system, then he must have developed it during the experiments with buoyant capsules.

The current system is completely different from what he showed in his first videos, when he showed two flexible bags connected by a tube and submerged in water at different depths, or when he explained the first Hidro+ machine with the drawing of the two capsules connected to air reservoirs at different heights.

As shown by the type B system, and according to my analysis of the type A system, the only part that we should consider is the system of piston and valves at the base of the tower.

The fundamental question now is no more whether it is possible to extract power continuously from gravity by means of buoyancy and gas compression, but whether it is possible to build a system of pistons and valves which can provide a pulse of compressed air at each cycle by exploiting the pressure of a tall column of water, without depleting the water in the tower, which means to return the water into the tower at each cycle.

The type B system also excludes the possibility that the machine could get the energy from the ambient heat. With the large buoyant capsules, one could think that the gas inside the capsules was taking heat from the surrounding water, which in turn was taking heat from the ambient air. Even if a cursory analysis of the temperature and heat involved excludes this possibility, it is now totally excluded in the type B system. Furthermore, the public explanations written by Mr. Kwok don't contain any mention of the thermal energy of the compressed air.
Investment Related Events

Recently, by searching on Google, I found some documents published by the Australian company FTD Corporation Ltd, which now has officially changed its name to Centium Electric Ltd. These documents describe the situation of the company in the middle of year 2011 and the transition to the new company.

FTD Corporation Ltd. was previously active in the field of management and also operation of villages for retired people in Australia. For several reasons, mistakes, or bad management, the company was close to being liquidated.

The directors proposed to rebuild the company by buying the Global Master License of the Hidro+ generator from Mr. Kwok. The FTD Corporation then changed its name into Centium Electric Ltd. The main strategy of the new company is to exploit this license by selling local and national licenses to companies in other countries.

With this act, the company has assigned about 65% of its shares to James Kwok, but these shares are kept in escrow for two years. The company also paid $160,000 to Mr. Kwok (the amount is in Australian dollars, probably). Mr. Kwok has also signed a contract with this company to provide his assistance with the Hidro+ technology for the next few years at the standard rate for engineering consulting in Australia. The director of the company has also changed. The former Harry Fung (another Chinese - Australian) has left the chair to David Ainsworth of England.

Here are short descriptions of these documents:

The first document is an announcement made by the FTD Corporation to the public and the shareholders, on July 27, 2011, to inform them that the company has started an agreement with James Kwok's company.

The second document is an independent report about the possible acquisition, made by an external consulting firm. Their report clearly states that the market value of the Hidro+ generator global license cannot be estimated. The report also states very clearly that the independent consultants have done no research at all to verify the claims about the Hidro+ technology.

The third document is the convocation of the general meeting of the shareholders, for the date December 9, 2011. It contains the descriptions of all seven of the resolutions that were proposed. The resolutions, however, are strictly dependent on each other, so it was almost impossible that some of them were approved without approving the acquisition of the Hidro+ Global License.

The fourth document, dated the same day, December 9, 2011, is the result of the general meeting and it states briefly that all the resolutions have been approved, with the percentages of votes in favour and contrary to each resolution. We can see that almost every resolution was voted almost by all shareholders.

The fifth document, dated January 3, 2012, is the communication of change of name of the company, that is now called Centium Electric Ltd.


Comments About These Events

The FTD company was, as a matter of fact, a failed company. Its shares had zero value in 2011.

Neither the shareholders nor the independent consultants have done a test of the Hidro+ system in any way.

David Ainsworth is also one of the founders of another small company based in the UK, called Renewable Utilities UK, that holds the license of the Hidro+ generator for UK, Ireland, and the whole of Africa. Actually, Renewable Utilities UK was founded many months ago, well before the acquisition of the Global Master License by FTD Corporation. Months ago, on the Renewable Utilities UK website, it was already written that they had the license of building and selling Hidro+ generators in these countries.

For a cautious person, the recent acquisition of the Global License by this Australian company has little importance because we still haven't gotten any proof that the machine works. Of course, the right path should be to see first whether the machine works and then talk about investments, but in this case it seems that some people have started to consider the possibility of investment before even seeing a complete system.

James Kwok has an interesting history...

07-32 Former director of Sydney power company jailed

Friday 9 February 2007

A Queensland man was today jailed for dishonestly using his position as a director of a listed Sydney-based company.

Mr James Kwok, of Hope Island, Queensland, was sentenced to 24 months imprisonment to serve 14 months by way of periodic detention following an investigation by the ASIC.
Mr Kwok was sentenced in the Sydney District Court today after being found guilty, following a two-week trial in October 2006, of dishonestly using his position as a director under the Corporations Act.
ASIC alleged that Mr Kwok acted dishonestly while a director of Envirostar Energy Limited (Envirostar), a publicly listed company, by not disclosing his interest in two parcels of land leased by Envirostar. The leases over the land commenced in mid-2000 but Mr Kwok’s interest was not discovered until August 2002 when he tendered his resignation from the Envirostar Board. Envirostar had paid rent of approximately $30,000 per month for the land.
ASIC also alleged that Mr Kwok’s wife and son were directors of the companies, recorded as owners of the land, and that Mr Kwok failed to disclose this interest to the Envirostar Board or to Envirostar’s shareholders, either prior to or during the term of each lease.
Envirostar’s principal activity was building power plants to convert waste material into energy.

ASIC’s Executive Director of Enforcement, Jan Redfern said today’s outcome was a reminder of the important and ongoing responsibilities that company directors carry, and the consequences directors face by defying their legal obligations.

Nice work Jimmy!
http://hidroonline.com/
(What a Kwok!)

[dsula]

blinky?

[Captain Thunderbolt]

Stinky?

[efarmer]

The type B system was B*llsh*t. The type C system is instead C*llsh*t. With a little
energy stolen from the B*llsh*t design to Cull some funding going forward.

There is no free lunch, except for things you would never consider eating or putting
into you mouth unless a gun is held on you.

Energy is indeed free until one needs some timely applied for their own purposes
and usage.

[Keith_McClary]

A Brief History of Free Energy
Covers 1879 - 2006 (scroll down to CONTENTS). By a true believer.

[Cog]

Thanks Thunderbolt for keeping us up to date on all of the exciting free energy news. Its threads like this that make this board what it is.

[peripato]

Oooh, I love free stuff!

[Stinky Bill]

http://pesn.com/2013/08/23/9602358_Your ... evolution/

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Your Opportunity to Support the Free Energy Revolution
Thanks to your generous ongoing contributions, we are able to continue to do our work of finding and facilitating the very best exotic free energy technologies with our news, directory, and networking services.

Click here to donate.

by Sterling D. Allan
Pure Energy Systems News
It's been three months since we've passed the hat to collect donations to keep PES Network, Inc. going. Thanks to all of you who are chipping in to help.
My goal this time around is to get $1000/month of new monthly subscribers and sponsors. And I'd like to pull in $3k total for this fund drive.

As you know, we at PESN have been covering exotic free energy technologies for 11 years now, working hard to find and facilitate the very best technologies as we come across them. While we all wish something could have come to market by now, there is no doubt that there are several very interesting players getting closer to that goal.
Exotic free energy is all about freedom. Supporting this cause is an effective way to be involved in this peaceful revolution to bring about these technologies that will bring power to the people, both literally and spiritually, as these technologies empower individuals and remove their dependence on the corrupt powers that be.

Stirling is appealing?
Eeew!....WhatEVER!!

[Stinky Bill]

Perhaps just a small loan?
http://pesn.com/2013/03/03/9602283_Leave_me_a_Loan/

We Prefer Loans Over Donations

I am certain that not just one but several of these exotic free energy technologies are going to be materializing, hopefully sooner than later. Perhaps the reason they don't come sooner than they have is because our civilization is not yet ready for them, but that shift in consciousness is increasing. The more evil the powers that be become, the more people awaken to our awful situation and want to get involved in making a difference.

Rather than receive donations, we would prefer to receive loans that we can pay back with a good return as these exotic free energy technologies finally emerge. The larger the loan, the more we'll be able to facilitate the awakening and awareness of these alternatives, thus speeding their arrival.

The addict doesn't have to hit the wall before waking up and making the needed changes to his life to return to being a useful human being. Our society is like the addict. We're heading to total meltdown, but we don't have to. If there is enough of an awakening, we can turn things around before losing everything. I am a strong believer in the repentance clause of prophecy.

If we at PES can get a good-sized loan, then we won't need to be asking for donations from our audience, and they will be able to use their spare cash to support technologies of promise of their choice. They can vote with their dollars in the various crowdfunding petitions. I would much rather they do that than give us donations to keep our news, directory and networking service going, though we certainly appreciate their help when no loans have been forthcoming.


Special Appeal for Substantial Loans

Hence, the purpose of this article is to make a special appeal to people who have a little more money, who can loan thousands of dollars, with my promise that we will return that money with benefits as these exotic FE technologies finally begin to emerge.

PES actually got its start as a corporation back in 2004 with a $10,000 loan. Half of that went toward the Bedini School Girl open source project, which hundreds of people have subsequently replicated.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCqkuSxFzeo WTF?

Here is a list of example projections of what could happen with certain loan amounts. (You can offer a loan for amounts smaller than this as well.)

$9,000 - could enable us to continue the present efforts for three months without asking for donations.
$36,000 - would probably be enough to enable us to continue the present efforts for a year without asking for donations.
$44,000 - could enable us to pay off our credit card debt and remove the monthly service fees, which presently come to $767/month (we would have access to the loaned amount via the credit card, with the motivation to come up with new revenue methods to prevent using the card)
$100,000 - could enable us to start expanding to one or more of the many supplemental functions, such as vetting, translators, editors, crowdfunding experts, topic experts, professional services for fledgling inventors.
$500,000 - could enable us to begin tackling all of the supplemental functions just mentioned
$1,000,000 - could enable us to properly tackle all of the supplemental functions.
$2,000,000 - in addition to tackling the supplemental functions, this could also give us some funds to help out the most promising technologies as vetted by our team of scientist consultants, thus speeding their arrival.

Come on, give him a hand.
He has all sorts of lovely magnet motors and E-Cats and stuff which will SAVE OUR SMALL BLUE PLANET!!

[Stinky Bill]

OMG!!
http://pesn.com/2009/09/06/9501569_PES_ ... s_the_hat/

March 2010 Update

Green Power Inc., the waste-to-fuel company in Pasco Washington, USA, has stepped forward as an official corporate sponsor of PES Network, Inc., making this fund drive no longer necessary, as of February, 2010. You're still welcome to contribute if you wish.

That's good news Stirling.
What is it they do again?

M'kay.... they take nasty waste stuff and turn it into fuel? Sort of like PetrolDragon did?

Right!

But doubts have been raised about the claims made for Green Power’s technology and about Spitzauer’s personal history — a history that includes a fraud conviction in his native Austria, a lengthy extradition battle in a separate case, and the bankruptcy of his previous business venture.
In an interview, Spitzauer, 38, said none of that was relevant to Green Power and its prospects. “What easier way is there to discredit somebody than to look at something in their past?” he said. “We are here for the future.”
So, we have a process that sounds too good to be true and the involvement of a convicted fraudster who is now saying the oil companies are out to get him. Not knowing more, I would steer clear. This all sounds much like the claims that Xethanol was making. Some of their key players had been previously accused of fraud as well. What happened? Their claims fell apart, and Xethanol finally went bankrupt (as I had predicted) because they couldn’t do what they said they could do:
Xethanol Now Defunct
Finally, I should point out that Michael Spitzauer has had a falling out with Dr. Koch. So it is still possible – albeit I think remotely – that Dr. Koch’s original invention is what he claims it is. But, if you want to put the technology to a real test, run some biomass through the machine that is spiked with a radioisotope (maybe C14) that would show up in the product. I will bet money that the spiked carbon doesn’t show up in the hydrocarbon, and that will be the end of that. If I were a prospective investor, I would insist upon such a test.
This particular case turned up a lot of dirt pretty easily once I started digging. It isn’t always that easy. But there are a still a good number of people who are convinced that this is for real. I think it is very telling, though, that skepticism runs high among the chemists and chemical engineers mentioned in the various links. But as I said, one can design tests to prove or disprove the claims.

Good Heavens to Betsy!!

Snip..... Harvey K. • a year ago −

The man also told me that out of all the shining plants on the website, not one is working on a 24/7 basis or in commercial operation. He mentioned plants in Spain, Italy, Finland, Rumania, Canada, et. al. The duped customers could not do anything, as the plants were sold as "pilot installations" and with the disclaimer that the customer was aware that this was still a work in progress.
blah..snip

I think you cannot even call this fraudulent, as the customers took the risk and lost millions. If it is ethical to work this way, is a different question.

blah....snip...
I have tried in vain to get an appointment with the owners of the plant in Tarragona, Spain. And contacting the company in Canada did also not lead to any results, as that plant seems also to be decommissioned. So I gave up on this matter, as I just cannot believe anymore in what is claimed on the website. This looks more like a religion that technology based on facts. People just want to believe.
blah....
All in all it looks like a lot of hype and it is really hard to look through all the smoke and mirrors.....