[nigel]

:D

It's good to laugh at some of the contributors who take themselves too seriously BUT I quote from the London Financial Times today 23/6/4

"Opec output set to hit highest levels since second 'oil shock'........
blah blah blah then I quote verbatim... 'Saudi Arabia's maximum production capacity is about 10.5m b/d, so the gap between that and the current output represents the bulk of the world's spare oil production capacity : the rest of Opec, and non-Opec countries, are pumping at capacity. Opec ministers are becoming increasing (sic) concerned about the lack of spare capacity."

Not the disaster many Peak Oilers look forward to but to quote from the FT again: "The market is going to remain very tight for the remainder of the year, and prices are unlikely to drift back towards $30" said Mr Lee.

[Guest]

I hope Matt Savinar is blushing!

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/Introduction.html

[The_Virginian]

Troll. Moderators Attention Doubble Post

[JayK]

Matt Savinar goes for bold not CAPITALS - otherwise it captures his tone perfectly.

I think Popsicals oldie tone is there too - Pops?

Are we really that SAD?

Don't answer that!

[Guest]

Virginian - what, no sense of humour?

[Pops]

As far as I can tell, Nigel, JayK and the several guests here are all posting from the same IP address - you guys having a party over there or just tired of decent conversation Nigel?

[deMolay]

NYT/Special Series "Food Chain" Food Oil Fertilizer Water
The effects on food costs, of Oil, Fertilizer, water, climate change. All pointing to starvation and unsustainable levels of food production for the increasing masses. http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/business/series/the_food_chain/index.html

[mos6507]

Wow. Maybe people should lay off on the "MSM is lulling us to sleep" mantra now and then after seeing stuff like this.

[deMolay]

What I like about it, is that it is a global perspective.

[Cid_Yama]

Today comes the startling news of a British government report showing a drop in oceanic zooplankton of 73 percent since 1960.

We were profoundly shocked to read that zooplankton abundance has declined by about 73% since 1960 and about 50% since 1990. “This is a biodiversity disaster of enormous proportions.” A graph shown in the report charts a steady decline in zooplankton from 1990 to 2006.

For many people, this may seem relatively inconsequential as compared to daily cataclysmic revelations about the state of the national and global economy. This reaction is understandable: we care first and foremost about our own immediate survival prospects, and a new and greater Depression will mean millions losing their homes, millions more their jobs. It's nothing to look forward to.

It takes some scientific literacy to appreciate the implications of the catastrophic loss of microscopic sea animals. We need to understand that these are food for crustaceans and fish, which are food for sea birds and mammals. We need to appreciate the importance of the oceanic food web in the planetary biosphere.

link

The movie Soylent Green forsaw this, the death of the base of the food chain leading to the necessity for the drastic measure of "Soylent Green". The die-off of the plankton was the "big secret" Saul discovered that led to the "horrible secret" of Soylent Green.

Numbers of zooplankton, tiny organisms that form the base of the ocean's food chain, have plummeted 70 percent since the 1960s, according to numbers collected by the British Department for Environment Food and Rural Affairs (DEFRA).

The data were included without further comment in a graph on page nine of DEFRA's 2008-2009 Marine Program Plan. The nonprofit organization Buglife noticed this graph, however, and began sounding the alarm.

link

[Jack]

Interesting article. Add in the low grain stocks and the problems with both water and fertilizer...along with capital formation...and land agriculture seems likely to produce weak returns. Which will cause humankind to turn to the sea. Predictably, the sea will be devastated, and the oceans will die.

Looks like the dieoff approaches.

[Schmuto]

What we've done to the oceans is truly embarrassing to me as a member of the human specie.

[mos6507]

Looks like the dieoff approaches.

Let's get it the hell over with.

I take it this what the acceptance stage of grief looks like? Not something I'm looking forward to.

[mos6507]

It's not so bad. I'm enjoying most days very much, actually.

Monte being around has a way of throwing a pall over everything.

[Lore]

How much of the world really contemplates how close we are to the edge?

[timmac]

Cid, . It is truly amazing the scale of the destruction, and that business as usual is still going on meanwhile here on land. .

Most people don't change till it hits them in the face..

[Jack]

Let's get it the hell over with.

I doubt the other species will be that lucky.

I suspect the planet will be a burned out cinder by the time 6 billion humans have died.

Whether anything better than a cockroach will survive humankind's death throes remains an interesting question.

The final scene...the last human, dirty, diseased and emaciated, eating the last roach.

I can almost feel sorry for the roach. Almost.

[Schmuto]

Cid, . It is truly amazing the scale of the destruction, and that business as usual is still going on meanwhile here on land. .

Most people don't change till it hits them in the face..

I must object.

Most people don't change until they hit absolute rock bottom, which is reached only after they have been repeatedly bludgeoned in the face.

[RedStateGreen]

This is the saddest thing I've read all day.

[ForlornHope]

Can anyone point me to a source which indicates what the cause is specifically that has produced this dieoff? Yes, I know its man and his excesses, but I'm more curious about the postulated immediate cause. Acidification, chemical pollution, oxygen depletion, genetic imbalance, all of the above and more? I've googled this report and have come up with scant info.
Any and all input appreciated.
Forlorn Hope