claman wrote:Newfie "Fascism needs enemies to demonstrate to the people that it can be tough and make them safe and prosperous."
Don't you see that islam actually is an opponent to the Christian world ?
Come to Europe and you will se for your self.
We gave them asylum when they were in a crisis - now they clame sharia -laws . I think they should go back to the place they came from, and live happily ever after with sharia.
Plantagenet wrote:The Freedom Party in Austria just missed winning control of Austria.
The Freedom Party is usually considered to be one of these "right wing" parties, but in actuality it is a leftwing anti-immigrant party. It gets its support from people in the working class in Austria.
If you are in the working class and you lose your job to an immigrant who will work for less, or your factory closes and moves overseas where the wages are peanuts, of course you are going to support parties that promise to restrict immigration and promise to stop factories going overseas.
Trump is riding the same wave in the USA. He's pulling in working class white voters, and his promise to build a wall at the USA Mexico border gets the biggest cheer at his rallies.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
"Yahoo NEWS
Duterte takes on media
By Edith Regalado
By Edith Regalado
June 3, 2016
Duterte takes on media
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Don’t f… with me – Rody
DAVAO CITY – President-elect Rodrigo Duterte not only refused to apologize yesterday for saying certain corrupt journalists deserved to be killed, but also challenged media workers to expose the “hypocrisy” in their ranks.
“Don’t f… with me,” Duterte told a press conference at past 9 last night. “You know, guys, you think too much of yourself… you want (to have) your cake and eat it too.”
He said he was ready to submit a list of journalists who served as mouthpieces of certain politicians and received bribes and “favors.”
“If worse comes to worse, we’ll expose each other,” he said. “I am ready to lose the presidency. Now. Or my honor, or my life. Just do not f… with me.”
He said the “vultures of journalism” were mostly the ones being murdered, as he challenged media groups to cleanse their ranks of corruption and “let’s unveil the hypocrisy.”
All the “lowlifes,” he said, “can die for all I care.”
Before opening himself to a profanity-laced question-and-answer portion, he said, “I’m through with my rantings.”
Earlier yesterday, his spokesman Salvador Panelo said Duterte would not say sorry.
“You only apologize if you committed something wrong, but the president-elect has not committed anything wrong with what he said,” Panelo told reporters.
During his press conference in Davao City Tuesday night, Duterte justified the killings of corrupt journalists. He even said one of them was a “son of a bitch” who deserved to die.
Panelo said what Duterte meant is that one “does not have to be a journalist to get killed. It will only happen to you if you have done something wrong and offended anyone.”
He described calls for Duterte to apologize as “misplaced.”
“Apparently, the things he said were misunderstood. They thought his statements not only justified media killings but even encouraged these incidents,” he said.
Panelo, who himself is under fire for being a lawyer of the Ampatuans who are facing trial for the 2009 Maguindanao massacre, acknowledged that “more media workers were killed because they were performing their job.
“But many of them were also killed because of personal reasons,” he added.
Panelo also maintained that the Duterte administration “is protective of the interests and rights of journalists, especially their freedom of expression.”
In a recent interview before Duterte’s controversial comment on the killings of corrupt journalists, The STAR asked the incoming president if he loved or hated the media.
“Of course, I love it. Whoever said I hated the media?” Duterte replied.
“What I said, I can have a word that you may not like me to characterize media. But it doesn’t mean to say that I do not like them,” he explained.
He also said that the media “plays a major role in a society, in a community where the voice of the people is given importance.”
“In some ways, it would be a guide and somebody who would be your partner in governance. That is why it is called the fourth estate, because if there is no media, you’ll never know that you are already sinking,” he added.
Duterte also said that in his 40-year career in government, the press has sufficiently covered him, including his personal life. “I think what is left is the good advice that you would learn from a report that is true,” he said.
“A minus, of course, is the media that are being used as a mouthpiece for the vested interest of the oligarchs, the owners of the media outlets. It could be TV or print,” he added.
What he does not like
There is one thing he particularly abhors: “It is really the angling in the media that I do not like. That is how media can be rotten.”
“For example, I was in a Rotary Club meeting and I was there to explain to the membership why I say profanities. I was already explaining that my profanities were because of the environment where I grew up. When I was young, we were in the Davao squatters’ area,” he explained.
“When it was reported by dzMM, the radio reported that Duterte does nothing but say profanities. They were there and I was explaining and yet that was what came out of their report,” he pointed out.
Duterte also said he is offended whenever he is asked about the state of his health during press conferences.
“‘How is your health?’ This question could be OK, but there was a follow-up question: ‘Can you show a medical report?’ Alam mo, pagka ganon nag-iinit ako (You know, I am pissed off by that). Because that is a very impertinent question and it has nothing to do with my health at the moment. I am not yet the president and you are interested if I will survive or not?” he said.
He also expressed dismay about his critics.
“They want to make it appear that there is a qualification that I cannot meet, that I am not healthy enough,” he fumed.
He told his critics that he would leave them to think what they want of him.
“So be it,” Duterte said. “That is the reason, my friend, why I am president and you are not.”
More flak
Duterte, however, drew more flak yesterday for his statement on media killings.
Ifugao Rep. Teddy Brawner Baguilat said Duterte’s statement was alarming because “not only does it encourage people to take the law into their own hands, it also encourages them to break the law for the wrong reason, circumstances that cannot be justified under any condition, especially in a society ruled by law.”
“The freedom of the press is one of the foundations of Philippine democracy. President-elect Duterte’s statement creates a chilling effect among journalists and threatens them to toe the line, or else. This is anathema to a democracy as it is this attitude precisely that has led to many journalists being killed,” he added.
Kabayan party-list Rep. Harry Roque warned that “the killing of journalists is the ultimate form of censorship.”
“These journalists were killed by people who are scared of the truth. Moreover, alleged corruption by members of the press does not make them legitimate targets of assassination,” he added.
Noel Sabayan, president of Kapisanan ng mga Brodkaster ng Pilipinas (KBP) Pangasinan chapter, said he does not believe journalists are killed because they are corrupt.
“The work of media is to tell the listeners or their readers the truth... Remember, any crime, violence or killing must not be tolerated and the government must exert effort to give justice to the victims,” he said.
“I think what he (Duterte) said that media men were killed because they were corrupt really came from his own thinking, but I hope such statements would have been avoided.
“I hope the government would open its eyes and heart in providing justice to victims of media killings, as many had risked their lives but no justice has been given up to now,” he added.
A group of college editors from Davao City also expressed dismay over Duterte’s statement.
The College Editors Guild of the Philippines (CEGP) Northern Mindanao chapter said Duterte cannot fully grasp the reality that media killings occur because they expose the corruption and injustices in their local government and community.
“The Guild is alarmed with the possible aggravation of atrocities done against journalists under the administration of the presumptive president,” the group said in a statement.
Despite the threat, CEGP said it would continue to condemn any form of suppression of the freedom of the press.
“There’s no room for press freedom violation that would alleviate our aspirations of using our pen for the people’s interest,” they added.
Fr. Jerome Secillano, parish priest of the Nuestra Señora del Perpetuo Socorro Parish in Sampaloc, Manila, said that even if a journalist is corrupt, it is still not a reason to end the person’s life.
“His statement against the media is a form of threat and intimidation. Granting that there are corrupt media practitioners, the state and whoever do not have the right to execute them without due process,” the priest noted.
“It will serve Duterte well if he strengthens this institution as a partner for good governance. It is also a challenge to the media to be an incorruptible institution and be authentic proclaimers of truth.
Defenders
For their part, Davao del Norte representative-elect Pantaleon Alvarez and Sen. Aquilino Pimentel III defended Duterte.
Pantaleon, Duterte’s choice to be the speaker of the House of Representatives in the 17th Congress, said Duterte was just stating facts that there are media practitioners who are corrupt.
Alvarez said he does not believe that the incoming president was endorsing the assassination of unscrupulous journalists as some reports indicated.
“There’s no such declaration – I don’t think he said it’s okay to kill media people who are corrupt,” Alvarez told reporters.
“It’s just like a statement, nothing personal, a mere observation and comment on his part,” he said.
Pimentel, president of PDP-Laban, said his partymate’s statement was just misinterpreted.
Pimentel also pointed out that Duterte has been consistent in his position to impose the stiffest penalties against drug pushers, rapists and murderers and so it was clear that he does not condone the killing of any person. – With Alexis Romero, Marvin Sy, Paolo Romero, Eva Visperas, Mayen Jaymalin, and Evelyn Macairan"
Carter said the U.S. has no plans to change course.
“With respect to our relationship with the Philippines, that is an alliance relationship. We take that very seriously,” Carter said. “It is, as we say, ironclad. It is with a democracy, and so they have a new government. We look forward to working with them.”
http://www.salon.com/2016/06/02/defense_secretary_carter_us_philippines_relationship_stable/
In this scenario, Manila would seek security benefits from the U.S. defense umbrella and economic returns from trade and investment with China. If successful, it could relieve tensions in the Philippines-U.S.-China triangular relations and, by default, in the South China Sea.
The net effect would be slightly cooler relations with Washington and warmer relations with Beijing -- but effective cooperation with each.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/10/opinions/duterte-us-philippines/
claman wrote:I sweden, thinghs have started escalating. Our guests are so dissatisfied with the swedish society that they won't let ambulances or the firebrigades pass. The swedish police dare not interfere if the see our guests behaving inproperly. This is not anti-guest propaganda, This is facts
Dalai Lama says there are 'too many refugees in Europe'
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/dalai-lama-says-too-many-refugees-in-europe-a7058911.html
SeaGypsy wrote:God you say some stupid shit 6. You contradict my statement with 'not gunna happen, too strategically important to the US' really if that is what you've got keep it off my thread. You are a real ignoramus on affairs in my region & should butt out.
Sixstrings wrote:SeaGypsy wrote:God you say some stupid shit 6. You contradict my statement with 'not gunna happen, too strategically important to the US' really if that is what you've got keep it off my thread. You are a real ignoramus on affairs in my region & should butt out.
If the US Navy needs a critical naval base, do you really think the US government is gonna let the country "fall into civil war?"
Why are you getting upset.
Read what defense secretary Ash Carter said -- the alliance with Philippines is "IRONCLAD." Ironclad means, "it ain't goin' away." Ergo, no, I don't think it's likely the state department and administration would allow Philippines to fall into mad max civil war.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:First off the USA gave up most of its basing rights in the Philippines going on 30 years ago.
The U.S. military is moving into these 5 bases in the Philippines
A new agreement between the United States and the Philippines clears the way for a new permanent American military presence across five bases that will support rotational deployments near the contested South China Sea.
The bases include:
Antonio Bautista Air Base. Located near the capital of the island province of Palawan, which is strategically located near the contested Spratly Islands in the South China Sea.
Basa Air Base. Located about 40 miles northwest of the Philippines' capital, Manila, the air base was originally constructed by the U.S. Army Air Corps before the Second World War.
Fort Magsaysay. Located on the northern Island of Luzon, Fort Magsaysay is the largest military installation in the Philippines, and is one of the primary training areas of the Philippine Army.
Lumbia Air Base. Located on the southern island of Mindanao, the air base is connected to a civilian airport. Local media reports say construction of a new U.S. facility will begin soon.
Mactan-Benito Ebuen Air Base. Located on Mactan Island of the coast of Cebu in the central Philippines. It was originally built by the U.S. Air Force before the American pullout in the early 1990s.
The U.S. will be setting up “permanent logistics facilities to support rotational deployments,” said one defense official familiar with the agreement. The Pentagon is likely to invest heavily on construction projects to enhance capacity at those five bases.
The agreement was finalized Friday.
The rotational presence could, in effect, leave U.S. military assets and personnel on the ground in the Philippines for long periods if the missions are approved by the government in Manila.
The U.S. military presence in the Philippines, a former American colony, was once fiercely opposed by many Filipinos, partly because of notorious rowdy behavior and misconduct that was common among troops during the Vietnam era when the Philippines offered war fighters a respite from the combat zone. That led to the complete withdrawal of U.S. forces in the early 1990s.
But the Filipino government has recently sought new support from the United States as China has grown more aggressive in asserting territorial claims and conducting military-style operations near Filipino shores.
The list of bases surprised many analysts who expected it to include some of the former U.S. military outposts such as Naval Station Subic Bay and Naval Air Station Cubi Point, both strategically located on the northwest coast, or Clark Air Base near Manila. Those facilities were a backbone of logistics support during the Vietnam War.
It's likely that the American presence there will grow slowly because China's activities have threatened the stability of the region, which includes vital trade routes for global economy.
"I suspect that it will ramp up slowly," said Jan van Tol, a retired U.S. Navy captain and senior fellow at the Center for Strategic and Budgetary Assessments in Washington. "A suddenly much larger U.S. presence, even if just a rotational presence, that can be seen, certainty in Beijing, that this is a ratcheting up of a U.S.-Chinese competition in the South China Sea."
http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/2016/03/21/us-plans-use-five-new-bases-philippines/82072138/
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