lorenzo wrote:Do you honestly think top scientists are so stupid as to not to include this question in their research?
Do you honestly think top scientists are so stupid as to not to include this question in their research?
lorenzo wrote:I'd kindly like to call serious BS on this.
Scientists (that is: not ideologues), have found that:
-by 2050, when population stands at 9 billion
-we can produce enough food, fodder, fiber and forest products
-to meet demand
-while having enough land left to grow biomass for the production of 1500 Exajoules worth of energy (that is: 4 times as much energy as we consume on the planet today)
-without cutting a single tree (a strict no-deforestation scenario), and while keeping 10% of all land on the planet as conservation areas
The scenario I refer to - made by the Copernicus Institute - is now the official backbone of the FAO's projection models on food, fiber, fodder and fuel potential.
Specop_007 wrote:Hell, my 7 year old now probably knows more about gardening then 3/4 of our subdivision.
Actually I think our blind faith in "Science" is the big part of the problem.aflurry wrote:Specop_007 wrote:Hell, my 7 year old now probably knows more about gardening then 3/4 of our subdivision.
agriculture is every bit part of the problem in this context.
aflurry wrote:Specop_007 wrote:Hell, my 7 year old now probably knows more about gardening then 3/4 of our subdivision.
agriculture is every bit part of the problem in this context.
Snowrunner wrote:Actually I think our blind faith in "Science" is the big part of the problem.aflurry wrote:Specop_007 wrote:Hell, my 7 year old now probably knows more about gardening then 3/4 of our subdivision.
agriculture is every bit part of the problem in this context.
We've cheated our way through a lot of things these past six decades and now finally the bill is being presented.
But that's where I do see the biggest problem too: we have destroyed a lot of farm land with "modern agriculture", in a way that is no longer sustainable, much less so once the cheap carbon is gone.
Reading "The Omnivores Dilemma" recently it just hit home just how screwed we are, forget about not having gas or diesel to truck the "food" to the supermarket. We're screwed right at the beginnig of the foodchain where the corn is grown.
They are not stupid but rather deluded.lorenzo wrote:
Do you honestly think top scientists are so stupid as to not to include this question in their research?
No-Oil wrote:I think you will find that the Easter Islanders survived because some bloke called Cook turned up in a space ship, well a Naval Ship & rescued them.
ohanian wrote:Relax, if the people of Easter Island can survive by (1) Killing their enemies
As a philosopher Linkola can be described as a biocentric empiricist. He demands that man return to a smaller ecological niche and abandon modern technology and the pursuit of economic growth. -- Linkola is a misanthropist who blames humans for the destruction of the environment and he has promoted ideas such as genocide for saving the environment and to keep the population in control. -- He has admired Stalinist and Nazi massacres.
pstarr wrote: People will flock with great rapidity into the cities for a bit of food and companionship. The country will empty out and nature will return.
pstarr wrote:So it's 'Green Imperialism' that prevents the 3rd world from realizing it's biofuel dream? Why wouldn't BP want a piece? Didn't BP get in and then get out of this scam?
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