[zoidberg]

As shown in the "Life After People - The History Channel" - once the psycho-monkey is out of the picture the earth reverts itself pretty fast into glorious garden again.

Humans are the most glorious and wonderful species to have ever evolved on Earth. Regardless of what you think of our(and your) efforts the sheer scale of our impact, technology, and buildings alone qualifies us for greatness on this planet. I guess art and whatnot goes into there too, but the planet isnt radically altered by that.

I'm just not happy with your characterization of us as psycho-monkeys. Like lions are wonderful philosophers. The only thing that keeps lions from wiping out every prey species and killing themselves is the limits of their imagination and abilities. Think about it. If we learn to limit ourselves consciously then we'll be able to set sustainable and malleable limits as we continue to advance.

People forever!

[vaseline2008]

Climate change really getting mainstream...

Link

[Lore]

There is at least a mini-series worth of doom and gloom here on PeakOil that could be contributed... "I'm ready for my close up Mr. Demille!"

We need you to bring this story to life — to use your imagination to create short videos about what it would be like to live through the next century if we stay on our current path. Using predictions from top experts, we will feed you detailed briefings from the years 2015, 2050 and 2100 — and you will report back about the dangers that are unfolding before your eyes.

[mos6507]

GW is as mainstream as it's every going to get. Inconvenient Truth, 11th Hour, Live Earth... The whole awareness thing peaked a year or two ago. We're really beyond the point where we need to raise more awareness. Those who haven't been reached are in active denial or they just don't give a sh*t.

[Narz]

WIll it be available online?

Also, global warming is a conspiracy fabricated by the hippie industrial complex.

[rattleshirt]

. Those who haven't been reached are in active denial or they just don't give a sh*t.

That would be my uncle(s) and most of the people in his church. It drives me batshit crazy because they aren't stupid. They have bought into a religious/political worldview that ignores most science. Willful ignorance drives into an alternating cycle of fury and despair. Then I go back to trying to get them to do the right thing, even if it is for weird reasons.

[vaseline2008]

. Those who haven't been reached are in active denial or they just don't give a sh*t.

That would be my uncle(s) and most of the people in his church. It drives me batshit crazy because they aren't stupid. They have bought into a religious/political worldview that ignores most science. Willful ignorance drives into an alternating cycle of fury and despair. Then I go back to trying to get them to do the right thing, even if it is for weird reasons.

Yes, my family with the exception of my sister and a nephew are all "religious" and really don't believe an end is coming...just Jesus' 2nd coming to take them all to heaven. Boy are they in for a surprise.

[Lore]

. Those who haven't been reached are in active denial or they just don't give a sh*t.

That would be my uncle(s) and most of the people in his church. It drives me batshit crazy because they aren't stupid. They have bought into a religious/political worldview that ignores most science. Willful ignorance drives into an alternating cycle of fury and despair. Then I go back to trying to get them to do the right thing, even if it is for weird reasons.

Yes, my family with the exception of my sister and a nephew are all "religious" and really don't believe an end is coming...just Jesus' 2nd coming to take them all to heaven. Boy are they in for a surprise.

Reminds me of the 1953 version of the "War of the Worlds" movie. The scene where the reverend walks out to greet the alien space craft with his cross before him, only to be vaporized.

Most of the universe is rather agnostic I'm afraid or in the case of nature, could give a crap less.

[AgentR]

They have bought into a religious/political worldview that ignores most science..

Chiming in on behalf of those being attacked here without representation... You can hardly claim to be shocked that they would react in this way, since a lot of simple anti-religious ideology missappropriates science for its own ends, even though science itself tells us nothing with regard to important tenants of faith.

How is a non science/engineer type going to be able to authoritatively seperate those which are anti-religious ideologues vs honest scientists with real information and no interest in interfering or meddling in their faith practices?

To Joe Schmozowski, the person technobabbling against religious speach sounds pretty much like the scientist with several peer reviewed articles placed in recent publications.

And people in places like these, bad mouthing religious people, does little to change that attitude.

[VMarcHart]

There's a post on the site's front page. I couldn't find the thread. Would a Mod please merge?

Link

Whereas some of it might happen, my "bold prediction" is that 90% won't.

[Roy]

Interesting. Thanks for posting.

Check out the comments. These are the first 5. At: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Earth2100/comments?type=story&id=7697237

people have been saying this since, well, since we have been able to speak. We will never see the end of our civilization, ever!
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hyperkell May-29
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kewl sounds like fun
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Guineverre May-29
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Yellow journalism at its finest!
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fitzhugh66 May-29
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Left wing scare tactics---that's what you call science?
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FThatsWhatUWant May-29
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God when wil this stop? Left wing media at it's best! Al Gore and his cronies are behind this. More money in Gore's pocket.
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There are some comments on there that are more realistic but at least half or more are like the above.

There are a lot of people out there who are in denial of our environmental impacts and our overpopulation causing impacts on Earth's carrying capacity.

Based on their actions, I would say the majority of our leaders fall into that camp as well.

That is not good.

[ian807]

Define "civilization."

[Ludi]

Define "civilization."

Primary Criteria

Settlement of cities of 5,000 or more people.
Full-time labor specialization.
Concentration of surplus.
Class structure.
State-level political organization.


Secondary Criteria

Monumental architecture
Long-distance trade
Sophisticated art
Writing
Predictive sciences (math, astronomy, etc.)

http://anthropik.com/2005/03/what-is-civilization/

[mos6507]

I'm carrying out a little sociology experiment on my facebook page. For a long time I didn't want people I knew to be my friend there because I post links to doom on a daily basis. I didn't want them to know I was a doomer. But after I came out to my family, I said f-it, so now I have people there I know, mostly childhood friends from the east coast and old coworkers from the west coast. Now, I see some of the stuff they post, mostly humor. It shows that they don't really burden themselves with pessimism. And yet I know they are reading my links. I've gotten a couple sarcastic comments here and there. So I'm kind of wondering what the net effect of this is, of them seeing my links stream by on a regular basis. Either this is like water of a duck's back or it's having some kind of subliminal effect. I guess I'll find out eventually.

[TheDude]

Hey, I'm going to be died by then and so will my kids....Why do I care about my grand children and beyond..Wow starting to sound Rushish! Don't people just do things because it's right? I hope to thing that's what makes us better then the wild animals in the forest! God forgive us!
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I hope to thing your write, 2.

[Nefarious]

If MSM is saying 2100 it probably means 2020.

[Windmills]

I think people confuse the concept of civilization with things like luxury, complicated technology, cheap oil, gas, and goal energy, and globalized economies. Civilization has existed without those things for most of recorded history. A change in economies, governments, and technology doesn't mean that civilization disappears. It just changes. Maybe violently, maybe painfully, maybe terribly, but it's still just a change, not an end to it.

[nobodypanic]

I'm carrying out a little sociology experiment on my facebook page. For a long time I didn't want people I knew to be my friend there because I post links to doom on a daily basis. I didn't want them to know I was a doomer. But after I came out to my family, I said f-it, so now I have people there I know, mostly childhood friends from the east coast and old coworkers from the west coast. Now, I see some of the stuff they post, mostly humor. It shows that they don't really burden themselves with pessimism. And yet I know they are reading my links. I've gotten a couple sarcastic comments here and there. So I'm kind of wondering what the net effect of this is, of them seeing my links stream by on a regular basis. Either this is like water of a duck's back or it's having some kind of subliminal effect. I guess I'll find out eventually.

and yet here, you're by comparison an optimist. ironic, isn't it?
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2100? i think they're off by about 80 or 90 years.

[peripato]

There are a lot of people out there who are in denial of our environmental impacts and our overpopulation causing impacts on Earth's carrying capacity.

And a lot of that type frequents this forum too. No need to name names - you wankers know who you are!

[hillsidedigger]

Remember, this world is just a birthing place for souls to later populate the heavens (a select percentage of them anyhow)

and it doesn't matter if in a few years the entire world is just a heap of rotting, disposable diapers.

Note - That is not what I think but it's what I have been frequently told by others for decades.