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The Decline and Fall of the American Empire Pt. 2

General discussions of the systemic, societal and civilisational effects of depletion.

Re: 1 of many reasons why America is heading towards Bankrup

Unread postby Sixstrings » Thu 07 Apr 2011, 20:27:13

timmac wrote:More Americans Work For the Government Than In Manufacturing, Farming, Fishing, Forestry, Mining & Utilities Combined

If we don't make serious changes now than it will be 50+% wage taxes or Bankruptcy..


The only way to create jobs here again would be to roll back globalism. All the handouts to Wall Street, banksters, and the rich have ended up funding infrastructure in other nations -- China, Brazil, India, Central America, Mexico, the whole frickin' world. That's the problem here Timmac, our national policies favor the rich but the rich don't favor this country.
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Re: 1 of many reasons why America is heading towards Bankrup

Unread postby nobodypanic » Thu 07 Apr 2011, 20:56:59

timmac wrote:

No lets just downsize the government by 30%, and tax imports 20%, this way we might be able to stop any more manufacturing moving out and decrease the government.

what's the matter, have you lost faith in your wonderful capitalist free-market system? :lol:

timmac wrote:I was only refering to this as 1 of many reasons why we are heading towards BK, and why are we the police of the world, how bout just focus here and f@%k the rest..

why? because when you're the number one power, the last thing you want is change. change is bad in that case, since it could result in toppling you off the top of the mountain. great powers like us want stability & work hard towards freezing all relations in order to maintian the status quo.

as far as the domestic front... what are you saying, 'focus here'? is that a call for government intervention at home? sure sounds like it! so what's the matter, have you lost faith in your wonderful capitalist free-market system?

i don't think you have a coherent notion of what you want.
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Re: 1 of many reasons why America is heading towards Bankrup

Unread postby timmac » Thu 07 Apr 2011, 21:10:35

nobodypanic wrote:i don't think you have a coherent notion of what you want.


Oh I know exactly what is needed and its real change, and focusing here does not mean a bigger government but a smaller smarter one.

Unfortunately I and others have to make these extreme comments because what is about to happen here is going to be extreme if we don't stop now and fix it right, yes its going be tough for some but the outcome will be better in the long run, we also need a moral change here as well, if we don't change ours morals than it will be all for nothing.

Part of Americas down fall is getting away from the true God and true family values..
[ if you know what I mean ]
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Re: 1 of many reasons why America is heading towards Bankrup

Unread postby timmac » Thu 07 Apr 2011, 21:27:49

nobodypanic wrote:what's the matter, have you lost faith in your wonderful capitalist free-market system? :lol:


No I have lost total faith in the socialist/commie type leaders that are screwing up our wonderful capitalist free market, to much government is the problem, they need downsized and to get out of our way..

However I suspect somone that is mind slanted as you with socialist/commie thoughts would never understand, are you a cousin to AmericanDream, you sound like him..
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Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby KevO » Thu 21 Apr 2011, 16:05:54

DO NOT give this country any guns -- ever
http://youtu.be/wyrigSdDrMY

god save em
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The Decline and Fall of the American Empire Pt. 2

Unread postby Sys1 » Thu 21 Apr 2011, 16:46:10

Pointless stupid video.

Put a fellow in a stressed situation : a camera, a "journalist" with nice haircut, face and serious voice, then a quick serial of questions forcing the person to answer fast, one or two crazy questions in the list.
Then do the trick a hundred time on people who look a bit dumb or shy. At the end, select the 10 "winners" of your experience and pretend those 10 people represent the population of America.

I don't think people are so dumb. I think they are manipulated to become dumb by MAINSTREAM MEDIAS.
Now think a bit about it. What if mainstream medias would like you to believe every one you see in the street is dumb... Would you like to revolt against the system or would you just hate them because you as a single one is far more intelligent than OTHERS?

They divide us.
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby dukey » Fri 22 Apr 2011, 08:18:16

There is no escaping the fact Americans are thick as shit .. I guess this is what happens when you poison the water supply with fluoride.
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby Oakley » Fri 22 Apr 2011, 08:59:15

dukey wrote:There is no escaping the fact Americans are thick as shit .. I guess this is what happens when you poison the water supply with fluoride.


To begin with, an average mind is not all that sharp. Add the fluoride as you note, plus conditioning it into passivity, indoctrination it into the government plunder and control system, starve it with devitalized food and beverage, and subject it to many other industrial toxins, and you have the average American. No wonder it has been so easy for a very few to gain control of government and use it for the benefit of themselves and their elite backers.
"The deepest sin against the human mind is to believe things without evidence" Thomas H Huxley
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby KevO » Fri 22 Apr 2011, 15:39:14

don't forget to add a high dose of constant Fukushima radiation for at least another 9 months
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby basil_hayden » Sat 23 Apr 2011, 08:21:34

But on the island 'cross the pond, sending mailbombs over soccer is OK.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/128679.html
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby KevO » Mon 25 Apr 2011, 08:05:49

basil_hayden wrote:But on the island 'cross the pond, sending mailbombs over soccer is OK.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/128679.html



you mean Scotland?
That's like referencing Canada to the OP.
Scotland is a different country - it has its own parliament and different laws. And the men wear skirts, long socks, no underpants and have a furry bag as a wallet. It ain't England and the Scots and the English love each other as much as Americans and Canadians do
Remember, intelligent yanks have only England to thank as we are your forefathers
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby basil_hayden » Mon 25 Apr 2011, 08:43:44

KevO wrote:
basil_hayden wrote:But on the island 'cross the pond, sending mailbombs over soccer is OK.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/128679.html



you mean Scotland?
That's like referencing Canada to the OP.
Scotland is a different country - it has its own parliament and different laws. And the men wear skirts, long socks, no underpants and have a furry bag as a wallet. It ain't England and the Scots and the English love each other as much as Americans and Canadians do
Remember, intelligent yanks have only England to thank as we are your forefathers


If you're trying to connect intelligent and English, you'll have to go alot farther than that; for instance, maybe you could stop reposting old news thus disproving your point.
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 25 Apr 2011, 14:49:23

Sys1 wrote:I don't think people are so dumb. I think they are manipulated to become dumb by MAINSTREAM MEDIAS.


People who can be easily manipulated by mainstream medias ARE dumb.

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People who flip the other way and think everything they see in the media is automatically a lie are ALSO dumb. In both cases neither group are really thinking actively. One group trusts completely, and the other group distrusts completely.
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 25 Apr 2011, 15:41:14

mos6507 wrote:
Sys1 wrote:I don't think people are so dumb. I think they are manipulated to become dumb by MAINSTREAM MEDIAS.


People who can be easily manipulated by mainstream medias ARE dumb.



so are people who think that a dude without proof of citizenship that thinks there are 57 states in US can be a candidate for a Presidency.
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby Newfie » Mon 25 Apr 2011, 18:18:24

Well, for what it's worth I think people, self included, are a whole lot dumber than most anyone.

Evidence?

Look at the range of intelligence from the lowest living thing to humans. Plot it out on a curve, use linear paper.

Whoa, whats that huge gap between humans and everything else?????

Narcissism. :twisted:
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby KevO » Fri 29 Apr 2011, 10:45:50

basil_hayden wrote:
KevO wrote:
basil_hayden wrote:But on the island 'cross the pond, sending mailbombs over soccer is OK.

http://www.secularism.org.uk/128679.html



you mean Scotland?
That's like referencing Canada to the OP.
Scotland is a different country - it has its own parliament and different laws. And the men wear skirts, long socks, no underpants and have a furry bag as a wallet. It ain't England and the Scots and the English love each other as much as Americans and Canadians do
Remember, intelligent yanks have only England to thank as we are your forefathers


If you're trying to connect intelligent and English, you'll have to go alot farther than that; for instance, maybe you could stop reposting old news thus disproving your point.


maybe certain websites shouldn't advertise porn links -whoopass - and what's an anagram for Kate Middleton? - now that's dumb
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Re: Why America is DOOMED! Evidence here

Unread postby Pretorian » Mon 02 May 2011, 17:36:11

hey, some can't do even that can they
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States Struggle For Money, Political Will To Fix America's F

Unread postby swingbolder » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 14:29:39

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/1 ... 67466.html

States Struggle for Money, Political Will to Fix America's Failing Roads

First Posted: 9/17/11 10:08 AM ET Updated: 9/17/11 11:52 AM ET
By CRISTINA SILVA and JOAN LOWY, The Associated Press

LAS VEGAS (AP) -- The Hoover Dam, one of the world's great engineering feats, is marred by roads with traffic so jammed along the Nevada-Arizona border that it tells a different story about the political will to maintain 21st century infrastructure.

The road leading to the dam cannot accommodate the torrent of tourists and spills them into the overwhelmed little town of Boulder City. Nevada lawmakers are trying to find a private company to build a $400 million bypass because the state can't afford it.

The phrase "you can't get there from here" is increasingly apt nearly everywhere one turns. America's roads, highways, bridges and transit systems are falling apart.

Con't:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/1 ... 67466.html
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Re: States Struggle For Money, Political Will To Fix America

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 21:11:44

swingbolder wrote:The phrase "you can't get there from here" is increasingly apt nearly everywhere one turns. America's roads, highways, bridges and transit systems are falling apart.

Con't:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/1 ... 67466.html


No it just means that tourism drops in a recession. big effin deal. Once the massive recovery hits, everything will be fine again.
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Re: States Struggle For Money, Political Will To Fix America

Unread postby nobodypanic » Sat 17 Sep 2011, 22:01:37

pstarr wrote:Yes America is falling apart and has been since the early 1970's---not coincidentally when USA oil production peaked.

correlation does not equal causation.

the problem of capital stagnation that US national capital faced (and continues to face) during the 70's was not simply a consequence of peak US oil. indeed, unlike the soveit union, the US was able to tap the rest of the world for its energy needs. the problem has been and continues to be a complex of lack of profitability of investment at a level sufficient to drive adequate expansion; and the international division of labor, which manifests itself in the off-shoring of US manufacture and export toward areas of the globe where the costs are such that an adequate rate of expansion is still possible.
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