Couple of things, you will have to look at other economic aid and ensure that the famine was not as a result in drops in that as well. You will also need to bear in mind the speed of the change, sudden changes can have much greater impact than bigger more gradual ones.Questionmark wrote:Just a small dip in available oil from ~225k a day to ~180k a day was enough to ruin the economy and trigger famine.
dorlomin wrote:Couple of things, you will have to look at other economic aid and ensure that the famine was not as a result in drops in that as well. You will also need to bear in mind the speed of the change, sudden changes can have much greater impact than bigger more gradual ones.Questionmark wrote:Just a small dip in available oil from ~225k a day to ~180k a day was enough to ruin the economy and trigger famine.
Questionmark wrote:And if anybody knows of any good primary sources from that time period I would greatly appreciate any leads I can get. I'm hoping to find a Cuban that lived through it and interview them myself but that may prove difficult so the more stuff I can find from that time period the better.
I formally renounce my posts in the leadership of the Party, my post as Minister, my rank as Major, my status as a Cuban citizen. Nothing legal binds me to Cuba, only ties of another kind that cannot be broken, as can official appointments. Looking back over my past life, I believe that I have worked with sufficient faithfulness and dedication in order to consolidate the revolutionary triumph. My only deficiency of any importance is not to have trusted you more from those first moments in the Sierra Maestra and in not having understood soon enough your qualities of leader and revolutionary.
pana_burda wrote:Questionmark wrote:And if anybody knows of any good primary sources from that time period I would greatly appreciate any leads I can get. I'm hoping to find a Cuban that lived through it and interview them myself but that may prove difficult so the more stuff I can find from that time period the better.
Indeed ... that surely is quite a task for all the reasons we know. And for those we still don`t !.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsFdtqYFsC0I formally renounce my posts in the leadership of the Party, my post as Minister, my rank as Major, my status as a Cuban citizen. Nothing legal binds me to Cuba, only ties of another kind that cannot be broken, as can official appointments. Looking back over my past life, I believe that I have worked with sufficient faithfulness and dedication in order to consolidate the revolutionary triumph. My only deficiency of any importance is not to have trusted you more from those first moments in the Sierra Maestra and in not having understood soon enough your qualities of leader and revolutionary.
One thing is certain though, the pharagraph extracted out of the translation of that letter read by fidel, and allegedly sent by che (quite accurate to that precise point, I might add) suggests some distance between the two personajes ... or dissidence . And, according to my records, the finger cut off the hand of Guevara, did not end up in the White House ....
Please, should you find somebody from/in that country, with enough "cojones" (and Internet connection, of course) for the interview, bear in mind what happens with dissidence in the island.
Questionmark wrote:And if anybody knows of any good primary sources from that time period I would greatly appreciate any leads I can get. I'm hoping to find a Cuban that lived through it and interview them myself but that may prove difficult so the more stuff I can find from that time period the better.
americandream wrote:ache
Modernity is modernity. Whether under capitalism or communism as both models of society are post feudal, technological by varying degrees and either secular or atheistic. Which is why you find for example, that nominally socialist societies make the transition oto capitalism with greater ease (China and The USSR) than do feudal ones (medieval Europe and more recently, the medieval world of Islam).
Having said that, the individualist society of capital is functionally alienating and hence, in crisis, prone to painful and violent displocation.
Ache wrote:americandream wrote:ache
Modernity is modernity. Whether under capitalism or communism as both models of society are post feudal, technological by varying degrees and either secular or atheistic. Which is why you find for example, that nominally socialist societies make the transition oto capitalism with greater ease (China and The USSR) than do feudal ones (medieval Europe and more recently, the medieval world of Islam).
Having said that, the individualist society of capital is functionally alienating and hence, in crisis, prone to painful and violent displocation.
I really do not get your point .
I think you need to stop trying to fit things into molds right now.
I do not think you can say China or USSR make an easy transition to capitalism, have you read their history?
Russia still trying to make a transition into capitalist of whatever you want to call it, they do even know what they have over there. Have you been to the rest of the old Eastern communist countries? They still looking for their identities.
Cuba before 1959 was almost cookie cutter of USA even more than Peurto Rico.
americandream wrote:pana_burda wrote:Questionmark wrote:And if anybody knows of any good primary sources from that time period I would greatly appreciate any leads I can get. I'm hoping to find a Cuban that lived through it and interview them myself but that may prove difficult so the more stuff I can find from that time period the better.
Indeed ... that surely is quite a task for all the reasons we know. And for those we still don`t !.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsFdtqYFsC0I formally renounce my posts in the leadership of the Party, my post as Minister, my rank as Major, my status as a Cuban citizen. Nothing legal binds me to Cuba, only ties of another kind that cannot be broken, as can official appointments. Looking back over my past life, I believe that I have worked with sufficient faithfulness and dedication in order to consolidate the revolutionary triumph. My only deficiency of any importance is not to have trusted you more from those first moments in the Sierra Maestra and in not having understood soon enough your qualities of leader and revolutionary.
One thing is certain though, the pharagraph extracted out of the translation of that letter read by fidel, and allegedly sent by che (quite accurate to that precise point, I might add) suggests some distance between the two personajes ... or dissidence . And, according to my records, the finger cut off the hand of Guevara, did not end up in the White House ....
Please, should you find somebody from/in that country, with enough "cojones" (and Internet connection, of course) for the interview, bear in mind what happens with dissidence in the island.
At least the Cubans get decent health and such like in contrast to the other Latin American hellholes.
Questionmark wrote:Just a small dip in available oil from ~225k a day to ~180k a day was enough to ruin the economy and trigger famine.
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