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Re: Must Watch Video About Cancer

Unread postby KhanCEO » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 02:47:22

You know for a movie that claims to have a cure for cancer I thought this post would get more than 428 views. That is really something considering that cancer kills 1/4 people in America. I thought it would get more hits, I mean even just to be watched and judged based on what was seen, but nope!
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby seldom_seen » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 03:27:28

Cancer is a big flashing red light for how far we've strayed off the path of health, body and land. Our response as an industrial society is to ignore the flashing light and try to make a quick buck off cancer medications and treatment. Historians of the future will undoubtedly view us as an igonrant people living in a dark age.

There is next to zero evidence of cancer in pre agricultural/industrial societies, see: CANCER: Disease of Civilization, An Anthropological and Historical Study, Stefanson, V, Hill & Wang, New York, 1960.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 05:33:52

seldom_seen wrote:There is next to zero evidence of cancer in pre agricultural/industrial societies, see: CANCER: Disease of Civilization, An Anthropological and Historical Study, Stefanson, V, Hill & Wang, New York, 1960.

With life expectancy of 25 or so in pre-agricultural sociecties there is nothing strange with that.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby KhanCEO » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 05:53:12

EnergyUnlimited wrote:
seldom_seen wrote:There is next to zero evidence of cancer in pre agricultural/industrial societies, see: CANCER: Disease of Civilization, An Anthropological and Historical Study, Stefanson, V, Hill & Wang, New York, 1960.

With life expectancy of 25 or so in pre-agricultural sociecties there is nothing strange with that.


Benjamin Franklin lived to 84

Benjamin Franklin wiki



James Madison lived to 85. James Madison Wiki

George Washington lived to 67. George Washington

This was during the 1700s and early 1800s.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby emailking » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 09:48:32

Those were highly post-agricultural times.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby Doly » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 11:03:25

KhanCEO wrote:Benjamin Franklin lived to 84

Benjamin Franklin wiki



James Madison lived to 85. James Madison Wiki

George Washington lived to 67. George Washington

This was during the 1700s and early 1800s.


There's always been people living to their eighties, it's just that they were a small percentage of the total population.

When it's said that life expectancy in pre-industrial societies was about 30 (I think 25 is exaggerating), they are talking about an average. It doesn't mean that most people lived till 30 and then dropped like flies. It meas that the majority of children died, and those who reached adulthood had fairly good chances of reaching the age of 50, and a significant percentage died even older.

Anyway, I've always disagreed with the concept that post peak we will forget everything we have ever learned about medicine.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby emailking » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 12:14:32

We might not be able to make a lot of the medicines though.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby holmes » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 13:39:11

EAT A RAW VEGETABLE AND FRUIT DIET. TAKE COLLOIDAL MINERALS. SELENIUM. CARDIO VASCULAR EXCERCISE. LIVE CLEAN AND SIMPLE. SMOKE SOME POT.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby emailking » Thu 16 Nov 2006, 17:04:17

There have been studies that link typing in all caps with finger cancer. You should be careful.
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Re: Cure for Cancer?

Unread postby holmes » Fri 17 Nov 2006, 15:39:39

NOW THATS FUNNY! hahaha!
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Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby Pretorian » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 13:16:50

I wonder can it get any more ridiculous? How much of tax money was waisted there?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070705/hl_ ... ination_dc
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Re: Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 17:06:35

Could be stress. Some people think about it all the time, and some just don't. Generalized stress can show up in worries about things that are real, like racial discrimination, but the stressing over it is really stressing over a bunch'a stuff like financial stress etc.
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Re: Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby Daculling » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 17:51:50

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Re: Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby Chuckmak » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 18:33:34

Daculling wrote:Image

Now pay me!


heheh cool graphic
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Re: Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby emersonbiggins » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 18:48:08

Hmmm, diabolical...

Seriously, though, it seems that the same women who are contracting cancer at higher rates are curiously ones with social inferiority complexes (what I would call someone who is afraid what others *think* of/about them). Granted, the overt discrimination is likely real, but a MAJOR component of the study was based on subtle forms of "discrimination," allowing such a latitude of feelings as to make "others' fear of me" a valid component of said "discrimination". Such subjectivity immediately invalidates whatever noble aims the study originally had, IMHO, and skews measurements to the point that they have no basis in reality.

Oh, and give me a break.
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Re: Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 22:51:08

Cancer does not pick favorites!
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Re: Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby I_Like_Plants » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 23:12:34

yeah it does. Smoke, huff asbestos particles, ingest or breathe any of a number of things, spend a ton of time in the sun if you're light skinned, etc., and cancer will make you one of its favorites.
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Re: Racial discrimination is tied to breast cancer risk

Unread postby WildRose » Thu 05 Jul 2007, 23:20:14

There are risk factors, for sure. Plenty of 45-year-old long-time smokers get lung cancer.

But it is also true that cancer can strike anyone, even those who seem to do everything right.

Of course, how many things are we all exposed to that are carcinogenic and, if we develop cancer, will we know what to blame it on.
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Cancerous Tumors As a Meat Source-

Unread postby Kylon » Thu 27 Sep 2007, 03:38:43

If people want to eat meat so much, why not simply grow cancerous cow tumors, of the best possible pieces of meat, and then cook up those?

Cancerous tumors grow fast, have a good rate of conversion when dealing with the amount of food you put in vs. the food you get out, and are easy to grow.

Instead of all that farmland, we could simply create a food based from algae and grass, artificially digested, and fed to the cow tumors.


It's not organic, but it would certainly reduce the carbon imprint upon the world.


If people want meat so much, they can eat tumors!
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Re: Cancerous Tumors As a Meat Source-

Unread postby ohanian » Thu 27 Sep 2007, 04:49:13

Assuming a spherical cow

Damn scientists! They always make calculations based on a spherical cows. There are no such things!!!
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