SeaGypsy wrote:Saving energy is the only way to buy the time to find another means of operating our societies.
I get that. Use fuel more slowly. I suppose it does no harm and may do some good.
SeaGypsy wrote:Saving energy is the only way to buy the time to find another means of operating our societies.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:So as for me, the answer to the "saving energy" question is a resounding "NO". Saving energy is NOT pointless. AGW MAY be true. Saving energy MAY give future generations a better chance to find a sustainable way of life without destroying the entire biosphere, or at least everything bigger than a cockroach.
Revi wrote:Saving energy has a point in my household.
We save about a thousand a year by heating with wood.
We save about $300 a year with solar hot water.
We save about $2000 a year with more efficient cars.
Insulating the house got us another thousand.
And we save about $200 a year by driving an NEV for stuff around town.
The point is $4500, some of which turns into movies and ice cream.
I'd say that saving energy is not pointless to us.
furrybill wrote:Revi wrote:Saving energy has a point in my household.
We save about a thousand a year by heating with wood.
We save about $300 a year with solar hot water.
We save about $2000 a year with more efficient cars.
Insulating the house got us another thousand.
And we save about $200 a year by driving an NEV for stuff around town.
The point is $4500, some of which turns into movies and ice cream.
I'd say that saving energy is not pointless to us.
I totally agree. I'd even take the point a step further. Saving energy can translate into dollars that can then be used to continue getting more prepped for "the end". In a similar example, money I save by burning wood will go towards a solar hot water heater. Money I save on that will help pay for turning a wooded acre in front of my house into an orchard. Or maybe I'll pay off my mortgage. The point is that the money saved can be turned around and used to buy things that will further lower living costs or get more independent.
And maybe all the energy I and others save will put off "the end" for another day, which gives me another day of income and another day to prep. From that point of view its not in the least bit pointless.
Plantagenet wrote:If we're talking renewable energy then saving energy is pointless---the supply is infinite.
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