pstarr wrote:Ibon wrote:KaiserJeep wrote: I would prefer to marinate in the angst of fossil fuel depletion, particularly petroleum depletion, which I view as a real and imminent form of Doom. This is the central theme of PO.com, which most of you ignore in favor of off-topic AGW/CC angst and Doom hysteria, which I believe is overblown reaction to natural changes in surface temperatures, caused by a complex relationship between such temperatures and the solar radiation which varies over centuries due to reasons of orbital mechanics, called Milankovitch cycles.
You seem to enjoy marinating in the AGW/CC debate actually. AGW is not off topic to peak oil because
AGW has always been a consequence of human overshoot enabled by the over consumption of fossil fuels.
Here we have an inkling of the truth. The AGW/CC Doomer Fanclub is organized around that mission statement, to put an end to the "over consumption of fossil fuels." Here's a clue: we have little choice, we consume what we need to live. All that driving around, however frantic and unfortunate, was baked into the suburban model 100 years ago. There is no getting out of it. Too late to implement local light rail, intercity electric passenger trains and long-haul electric freight. We can't even fix our rotting water and sewer systems.
So you fanboys and fangirls can just relax and stop trying to prove to everyone that we have a choice. Or that our choice matters. Or that the results matter. You and it doesn't matter. There is no avoiding dieoff. Which incidentally will have little or nothing to do with AGW.
Newfie wrote:Revi,
FWIW, there is also a psychological component. It doesn't effect all but for some us living in the city, even in the nicest parts, is distressing, depressing. I don't know what the differentiator is but its real, for at least some of us. I was just miserable.
GHung wrote:Our city friends come to visit, comment on the quiet beauty, then often proceed to speed-talk, complain about poor 3G/4G connections, make phone calls, and look for "something to do". They are clearly used to being over-stimulated.
Ibon wrote:GHung wrote:Our city friends come to visit, comment on the quiet beauty, then often proceed to speed-talk, complain about poor 3G/4G connections, make phone calls, and look for "something to do". They are clearly used to being over-stimulated.
I enjoyed your whole post but especially this part. We have some guests here that fit this description perfectly. Some folks have nervous systems that are permanently on and no longer know how to disconnect and chill. Most folks though who arrive amped up do find a baseline by the end of their stay though. The wilderness elixer does work on most people.
GHung wrote:How long is the average stay there?
Question: Are urban/suburban dwellers more sociopathic?
Newfie wrote:Here's an honest question. Was any great book ever written by a person who did not know how to set aside time for thoughtful reflection?
Sadly Newfie we are not supposed to call them Eskimos today. Apparently the Inuit are or were called that by the native Americans living to the south of them and it means "eaters of raw meat" and is the equivalent of calling a colored person the "N" word.Newfie wrote:I remember reading that Eskimos would stand by a seal blow hole poised in a position to strike when the seal arrived. Sometimes for 2 days.
Now THATS awesome.
Newfie wrote:You are not supposed to refer to a man (is "man" still allowed?) in his golden years as "old." Ageism!
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