pup55 wrote:Well, micro-anything flies in the face of the last 100 years of industrial development in the world, starting with Edison, who figured out that centralized electrical production and distribution was better (for him) than the micro scale.
SeaGypsy wrote:Don't want to be a party pooper; BUT.
I just dug through the site. Found a few red flags:
1/ The site seems to have had nothing done to it since 2006.
2/ The 'careers' tag brings up 1 job- a product development engineer position.
3/ The products are forecast (in 2006) to be ready in late 07 and 08/ with no updates in 09 at all or since.
4/ The contact page gets office addresses and phone numbers only, outside of the UK. The web address provided in the UK is for a general 'green consultancy' business which doesn't mention this project at all. It is also very short of links and information in general.
I could get either of these websites knocked up out of thin air in a day for peanuts. A couple of people to answer phones in a couple different countries..... Just thinking out loud.
Energix's Micro Gas-To-Liquids Concept Produces Synfuels at Lower Costs (link)
Low-Temp Production Reduces Capital Cost, Potentially Enables Mobile Production
ANAHEIM, Calif., Feb. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- Energix Research, Inc. has successfully produced liquid fuels from natural gas with a process that is more efficient -- ultimately reducing capital cost and enabling mobility. Energix Research's (http://www.EnergixResearch.com) tests indicate that its technology enables the entire gas-to-liquids (GTL) process to consume a lower percentage of the energy in the gas source and, due to the lower capital costs, the overall cost of production can be very competitive with conventional, large scale refineries which produce these fuels from crude oil. Energix expects to develop affordable, micro GTL plants to monetize underutilized resources, such as abandoned natural gas fields, coal bed methane (CBM) fields, flared gases, etc.
"We believe our process can affordably produce 50 to 200 tons per day of methanol, gasoline, diesel or di-methyl ether (DME -- a clean burning fuel substitute for LPG) with truck-mounted units using methane derived from biogas sources, such as landfills. Another source would be abandoned gas wells with very small reserves, which currently are not viable due to the inability to economically transport the fuel from the site," said Mr. Juzer Jangbarwala, CEO of Energix Research, Inc. "We will first focus on producing methanol and DME. Our vision is to eliminate the carbon footprint associated with the transport of fuel or other hydrocarbon chemical products such as solvents and alcohols. By producing high energy, low-emission GTL on site from existing gas sources that are often wasted, countries can reduce their dependence on foreign hydrocarbons and eliminate the carbon footprint associated with the transport of those products."
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Energix Research executed the GTL process via the syngas and Fischer-Tropsch synthesis route at a high conversion rate (87%) and selectivity rate (99%) using its patent-pending, electrically activated nanocatalyst process.
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The GTL process is the second process Energix Research is commercializing. Energix has successfully applied its proprietary process to produce hydrogen at very high conversion rates (>98%) and low capital costs ($200,000 for a 50nM3/hr plant) from various hydrocarbon feeds. Using the distributed generation philosophy, the technology has been tested to produce hydrogen at micro capacities with the same production cost of very large hydrogen generation plants, thus eliminating the need for transportation of hydrogen. Extensive reliability tests have been completed, and a 5KW on-site generator based on steam reforming of methanol for use with a fuel cell back-up power supply for the telecommunications industry will be launched later in 2009. The direct cost of producing electricity with this generator will be less than US$0.10 per KWH.
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Gerben wrote:Micro-GtL in a sense of natural gas to FT-diesel doesn't make sense unless oil prices are guaranteed to remain high. GtL only profitable on a large (huge) scale at current prices. A more simple process (requiring a lower investment) to create methanol or DME might make sense.
The first peak oil recession: Interview with Steven Kopits (link)
Kopits: The US has experienced six recessions since 1972. At least five of these were associated with oil prices. In every case, when oil consumption in the US reached 4% percent of GDP, the US went into recession. Right now, 4% of GDP is $80 oil. So that’s my current view: If the oil price exceeds $80, then expect the US to fall back into recession.
Gerben wrote:Micro-GtL in a sense of natural gas to FT-diesel doesn't make sense unless oil prices are guaranteed to remain high. GtL only profitable on a large (huge) scale at current prices. A more simple process (requiring a lower investment) to create methanol or DME might make sense.
Energix's Micro Gas-To-Liquids Concept Produces Synfuels at Lower Costs (link)
... "We believe our process can affordably produce 50 to 200 tons per day of methanol, gasoline, diesel or di-methyl ether (DME -- a clean burning fuel substitute for LPG) with truck-mounted units using methane derived from biogas sources, such as landfills. Another source would be abandoned gas wells with very small reserves, which currently are not viable due to the inability to economically transport the fuel from the site," said Mr. Juzer Jangbarwala, CEO of Energix Research, Inc. "We will first focus on producing methanol and DME. ...
unless oil prices are guaranteed to remain high
(source: STEO for January 2008)The Henry Hub natural gas spot price averaged $7.17 per thousand cubic feet
(mcf) in 2007 and is expected to average $7.78 per mcf in 2008 and $7.92 per mcf
in 2009
Brazilian oil company Petrobras is aggressively financing technology that will convert flare gas, a byproduct of oilfield production so named because it is commonly disposed of by continuous burning during drilling operations, into a synthetic and commercially viable form of crude oil.
It may seem surprising that natural gas, a valuable natural resource, is emitted in great quantities as a consequence of oil extraction only to be thrown away like garbage. When underground oil is subjected to high pressure, gas dissolved in the liquid escapes through a separate pipeline valve that reaches the surface. Yet, the practice of combusting this “associated gas” as quickly as possible (i.e. gas flaring) has become standard for decades in oilfields too remote from potential markets or transport infrastructure to take advantage of the fuel’s value. Official estimates place the global amount of gas squandered in this way annually at ¼ of the natural gas consumption in the US. Though technology does exist for converting this gas into liquid crude oil, initiatives pursued by Petrobras-financed companies Compact GTL (UK-based) and Velocys (Ohio-based) aim to create equipment compact enough to fit on Floating Production Storage and Offloading vessels used in offshore drilling.
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Differences between Natural Gas and Oil
In order to understand the abundance of natural gas and make intelligent, long-term policy decisions, we must break out of the oil and gas mind-set by thoroughly understanding the great differences between gas and oil.
The Physical Difference
Natural gas is a gas and oil is a liquid. Natgas cannot be seen or smelled. What you see on a gas stove in the kitchen is the flame, and what you smell if it leaks is a chemical odor that has been added for safety. Oil is a smelly liquid and is easy to see. Natgas is lighter than air, so instead of spilling on the ground as oil does, it floats up into the atmosphere. Natgas, like all gasses, is compressible, and liquid oil is not. A natural gas reservoir found at 20,000 feet below the surface will contain three to five times more natural gas than the same reservoir found at 3,000 feet. However, a barrel of oil found at either depth is still a barrel of oil. Oil is a viscous fluid and more difficult to remove from its reservoir deep in the earth than natgas which, because it is lighter than air, naturally seeks its way to the surface. Anyone who has ever sucked through a straw knows it takes energy to pull out your liquid drink, but when a cap is removed from a soda pop, the gas in the bottle flows out of its own accord. This is exactly how liquid oil works compared to natgas. Oil has a harder time getting to the surface and for most of the life of an oil field, has to be pumped to the surface. Of course, energy is required to run these pumps. Because natgas flows naturally to the surface, it also naturally voids its reservoir more easily than heavier, viscous oil. So when a natural gas accumulation is tapped, a larger percentage of the natgas originally in place when the field was found is recovered than is the case with an oil field.
Oil reservoirs naturally produce only 10 percent, and infrequently, up to 30 percent of the in-place oil found before additional secondary and tertiary recovery techniques must be used to increase that percentage to 40 percent or sometimes even 60 percent, but these methods are expensive and do not always work. Also, these methods require more energy use. Natural gas reservoirs generally produce 70 percent to 80 percent of the original natgas in place. So, because a much larger percentage of natural gas is recovered from a given reservoir than oil, and because natgas is compressible, more can be stored in and recovered from a reservoir as pressures increase with increasing depth in the Earth. Therefore, more Btus of energy will nearly always be produced from a reservoir below 8,000 feet if it is full of natgas than if it is full of oil.
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The Technological Difference
Because oil is both chemically variable and a complex liquid, it requires a lot of complex technology. Natural gas almost always flows naturally to the surface at pressures higher than atmospheric pressures. Generally, all that is required for its use is a tank that separates any liquids that may come to the surface with natgas, along with a series of pipelines and compressors to move the natural gas across the country to consumers. Some natural gas, particularly if it is "sour" and contains sulfur, requires a relatively small plant with some sophisticated technology to separate the sulfur from the natgas and make it "pipeline quality" and useable for the customer.
By contrast, being a viscous liquid, oil requires pumps to get it out of the ground. That is why most people correctly envision oil fields with lots of "nodding donkeys," or pump jacks, to bring it to the surface where it is stored in tanks. The photos shown in Exhibits 6.2 and 6.3 are typical of an oil field with its highly recognizable jack pumps and a similar photo of a developed natural gas field.
Oil's chemical complexities and variability also mean that it must go through large refineries that break it down to its various components before its products are useful to the consumer in the form of liquid gasoline, diesel, jet fuel, or home heating oil. Because oil meets such a large segment of global energy use (about 90 percent of transportation's demand for fuel), the quantities needed each day are enormous and require capital-intensive, behemouth industrial complexes called oil refineries to process crude oil into its usable commercial products . . .
Natural gas fields are not generally known or envisioned by the public. They are generally much cleaner because natgas cannot be spilled and the wellhead is only a series of valves extending about 5 or 10 feet above the ground. For the most part, natgas comes out of the ground basically ready to go to the user, so its technology is simple, more efficient, and does not need the economies of scale required by both oil and coal. As natural gas is not a viscous, high-carbon liquid like oil, it is more efficient and much less polluting. Engines that use natural gas tend to last longer and emit much less CO2 . . .
sicophiliac wrote:Well its too bad Obamas latest stimulus/jobs bill doesn't include any money for something like this. I mean why not build a couple dozen of these plants around the country.
With a massive development cost of US$19bil, the Pearl gas-to-liquid (GTL) plant in Qatar is the world's largest.
Banking on more environmentally-friendly and efficient GTL products compared with conventional oil refinery products, Shell together with its state-owned partner, Qatar Petroleum (QP) planned to spearhead the development of this niche industry into a larger scale commercial success.
Natural gas is processed to produce various synthetic oils such as gasoil, naptha, kerosene, paraffin and base oils.
GTL fuels are cleaner as they are free of sulphur, nitrogen and aromatics that reduce tailpipe emissions and pollution.
Shell has already blended some of its GTL gasoil from its plant in Bintulu into the Shell V-Power diesel and it is being sold worldwide.
For GTL gasoil, the Pearl GTL will be able to produce about 50,000 barrels per day of GTL gas oil, enough to fill 160,000 cars everyday.
“It is proven that GTL gasoil has a noise reduction capability for trucks,” said Wael.
GTL base oils is used in lubricants that maintain vehicle engines, gear boxes and transmissions.
Pearl GTL is slated to be the world's largest source of lubricant base oil producing about 30,000 barrels per day.
GTL kerosene, that can be used for heating and lighting, has found its greater use in aviation.
A Qatar Airways Airbus A340 made the first commercial passenger flight using a 50-50 blend of GTL and conventional jet fuel known as GTL jet fuel, in October 2009.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
The public oilco's are sitting on huge cash reserves, what better way to make use of it than investing in infrastructure for the future?
rockdoc123 wrote:The public oilco's are sitting on huge cash reserves, what better way to make use of it than investing in infrastructure for the future?
where do you get this from? My own perusal of various balance sheets suggests the opposite. Companies are selling assets to cover E&P capital costs, working capital in most of the companies I've looked at is good for a few months.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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