Ibon wrote:shortonsense wrote:
Economics. A penny saved is a penny earned. This truism has been around longer than you and I have been alive....?
Frugality and wise use of resources will be one of the tenants of a new cultural paradigm. You have just stated one of it's commandments which will be embraced by successful transition towns.
This is a "religion" (we are just playing with this word) of practical responses to the consequences of economic decline which unlike past recessions is a symptom of the deeper ecological reality of overshoot.
Baloney. We haven't overshot anything, blame the recessions on whatever you might like, but maneuvering from twittering idiots signing away on a mortgage document in the hopes of their ponzi scheme in housing succeeding to carrying capacity root causes isn't just a stretch, its a hallucination.
Ibon wrote:The old virtuous values of hard work, frugality, civic engagement, serving your community will be part of this new meme that will put a final lid on the coffin of the self indulgence of the individual we have witnessed of the past 50 years.
Jesus it sounds like you are bible thumping your way right into a decent communist society at this point. Individuals bad, something else ( Transition Town? ) good. Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan of those old virtues being exactly why I can laugh my way through this particular recession, but I certainly didn't learn them from a Transition Town, I certainly don't need a Transition Town to teach me how to properly raise my children with the same ideals, and I certainly don't think they have anything to do with a powerdown requirement unless its purely economic in nature, in which case I will react appropriately all by myself without a Transition Town speech, tablet, website or lecture required to point out the obvious to me.
Ibon wrote:I have recently read a book some of you might find interesting on this topic of the cycle of generations and how this sheds light on how the current generations passing through crisis will lead to a more civic society; The Fourth Turning by William Strauss and Neil Howe. It never even touches on the topic of peak oil or ecological overshoot. But I found reading it while keeping the greater ecological picture in the back of your mind to be quite a powerful combination.
Something I might be able to acquire at my local library perhaps?