patience wrote:I should clarify that the reason I won't consider socialist solutions here, is that it involves govt, which invariably screw up everything they touch. Exhibit A: Where we are right now.
I rest my case.
Mike Morin wrote:Do you disagree with just the language, or with the concept as well (pun intended).
odegaard wrote:A planned economy will NEVER work because it creates Moral hazard.Mike Morin wrote:......We need a planned economy to effectively retrofit the infrastructure and to rebuild our communities to be walkable, therefore eliminating the terrible daily waste of oil/energy resources for transportation purposes.
Those in charge of the planning aka government agents do so using my tax money and NOT their own money.
Therefore if the plan fails it's my problem not theirs.
ummm no thanks.
If you're trying to say that capitalists have made attempts to influence government and therefore hijack the tax payer's money thanks for the lecture.Mike Morin wrote:...
There is a better system than Capitalism, it's just that the Capitalists and THEIR GOVERNMENT puppets never allow for a fair hearing.
Mike Morin
I'm totally with you on this one patience, I've lost count how many times somebody has gone on the internet to boldly proclaim that they have invented some new econ / political system which is superior to the current.patience wrote:Don't get me wrong here, yeah we need an all-knowing, benevolent dictator, but I ain't seen any yet, and don't believe those who claim to be such.
odegaard wrote:I'm totally with you on this one patience, I've lost count how many times somebody has gone on the internet to boldly proclaim that they have invented some new econ / political system which is superior to the current.patience wrote:Don't get me wrong here, yeah we need an all-knowing, benevolent dictator, but I ain't seen any yet, and don't believe those who claim to be such.
I'm quite sure they mean well but:
I keep on getting this silly idea in my head that if hypothetically such a person had control of their own army they wouldn't hesitate to threaten physical violence against those who do not agree with them.
What do you think, am I being paranoid or am I onto something here?
PARIS — The IEA upgraded its global oil demand forecasts on Thursday, pointing to improvements in the world economy but warning that recovery will be slow and could even die out next year.
The monthly report from the International Energy Agency came after ministers from the Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) agreed to hold oil output steady amid signs of recovery.
But OPEC also expressed "grave concern" about the scale of any recovery.
The IEA said it was revising up its forecasts for oil demand in 2009 and 2010 because of unexpectedly strong economic signals from China and the United States, two of the world's biggest energy consumers.
But it also said that oil demand in major developed economies remained far lower than last year and that the prospect of another wave of recession next year before an eventual stable recovery "cannot be entirely discounted."
The IEA, the energy and oil monitoring arm of the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development in Paris, had been more cautious in its previous two monthly reports about excessive optimism over global economic recovery.
Recent signs of the global economy stabilising following a historic slump however prompted the IEA to revise its oil demand forecasts up by nearly 0.5 million barrels of oil per day to 84.4 mbpd for 2009 and 85.7 mbpd for 2010.
The historic drop in driving that began in 2007 and the dramatic decline in gridlock that accompanied it have ended, according to a report today by a firm that tracks congestion in the USA.
Using 12-month averages, the study found that driving increased by 0.3% in September, 0.2% in October, 0.3% in November and 0.2% in December over the same periods a year earlier, according to federal data.
Traffic congestion is still about two-thirds of 2007 peak levels but likely to get worse, says Rick Schuman, author of INRIX's 2009 National Traffic Scorecard. He cautions that further softening of the economy or a major hike in gas prices could cut congestion again. "As the job situation goes, so goes congestion," he says. "If we have a recovery and we start seeing employment starting to grow, congestion will grow along with it."
Obama on US oil addiction: We go from shock to trance
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