To run the world we're going to need arms, energy and our friends in power in strategic areas of the world.
leftist governments were unintentionally wonderful to American power throughout the 20th century. They consumed few natural resources because their centrally planned economies were too disorganized
UIUCstudent01 wrote:I got a question. Do you think it is wise to make war for resources?
UIUCstudent01 wrote:Also, is it necessary? What do you think of the population boom? Are you looking forward to seeing the country being ripped apart by lack of resources (because the poor will probably kill each other even more)? or are you for a draft to get these resources and to lower the population a bit?
UIUCstudent01 wrote:
Since there will definitely be demand destruction of some sort, couldn't an agrarian society actually come out to be the more comfortable for the masses? (Instead of getting drafted/'fighting' with others..)
UIUCstudent01 wrote:
Do you put all bets toward biotech for the farming industry? (Because as far as I'm concerned, that could be the most substantial thing thing to hold the population at a higher level, while having a high potential of devestating local ecosystems. I can't decide. Ecosystems would be ravaged in the short term, while insects adapt and the plants return to being not as fruitful. Thus, we destroy the majority of our ecosystems for a little marginal gain in the short term, but a possible lower quality of life because the natural resources (such as local plants and animals) are destroyed. Of course, you don't care about that, we can synthesize everything for everyone.) Also, you mention coal, I hope you do realize that climate change by CO2 is real; and that, no peer-reviewed paper has ever been able to say it hasn't. Climate change would be a double whammy to species all over the planet as well, completely destroying the 'renewable' resources on the planet.
UIUCstudent01 wrote:
Oh yeah. No true neo-con is religious, not even Bush. I'm pretty sure its all an act. I'm atheist too. But, that's probably all we have in common.
UIUCstudent01 wrote:Reality often times is 'doom and gloom'. It's just that you haven't stepped down from your high-horse-master-slave theory to realize it doesn't have to be. I'm all for capitalism - except when there is a limit to the resources involved and that resource is one of the most energy dense and useful things on the planet with no substitutes. And maybe if everything wasn't profit centered and instead, if it were resource centered people would work closer to their jobs. Capitalism doesn't conserve resources, there is no invisible hand in that, see: jevon's paradox It uses all the resources as fast as possible - while this is 'good' for other resources like labor (I think the creators of capitalism had this in mind), for oil it is not so good and has brought us to this point.
UIUCstudent01 wrote:
All in all, I hate you and your master-slave world-view with the world. It's filthy and disgusting - and if life were a stereotypical gradeschool sampling of kids, you would be the loudmouth-fat-bully constantly stuffing something in his mouth and stealing things. (Ironically, there was someone like that at my gradeschool, he also stole shoes and pairs of clothing. Take that for what you will.)
tdrive wrote:To run the world we're going to need arms, energy and our friends in power in strategic areas of the world.
abelardlindsay, I feel your pain. I am so sorry about you since
you are so delusional that even if I try very hard I cannot help you.leftist governments were unintentionally wonderful to American power throughout the 20th century. They consumed few natural resources because their centrally planned economies were too disorganized
Did you learn all this in school? I have been to all those places
and can tell you those and some other governments have wrecked they natural resources
so badly that today their women have to fuck foreigners to feed their children.
Cheers,
Barbara wrote:There's Peak Oil coming, and you have enough money to perfectly prepare your house as a farm: solar, insulating, heating, crops, livestocks, everything you need to live a transition without the slightest problem.
Or else, you can choose to spend all your money over weapons and live the transition stealing and robbering your neighboors.
Neocons choosed #2.
What happens if China tries to spend its billions of dollar reserves? The US exports soybeans, but even the Chinese can use only so much soy sauce. What else does the US export?abelardlindsay wrote:When the SHTF if the U.S is in control of world oil supplies or at least they are being sold in dollars, the U.S is going to be running things, China will collapse in on itself. The U.S has huge reserves of coal which will help us fair better as well.
Keith_McClary wrote:What happens if China tries to spend its billions of dollar reserves? The US exports soybeans, but even the Chinese can use only so much soy sauce. What else does the US export?abelardlindsay wrote:When the SHTF if the U.S is in control of world oil supplies or at least they are being sold in dollars, the U.S is going to be running things, China will collapse in on itself. The U.S has huge reserves of coal which will help us fair better as well.
How can the US control world oil supplies other than by a military blockade of major consuming countries? This would mean blowing up oil tankers on the high seas. They wouuld be declaring war on both the producing and consuming countries.
julianj wrote:
Have you read Powerdown by Heinburg? I rather suspect not.
Your plan is one option. It involves a lot of death and suffering, in my view much of which is avoidable. And will inevitably fail.
julianj wrote:
One thing I particularly think is that, when the US people realise they've been scammed, they are going to be very angry. Generally when Empires fall, a lot of unpleasantness happens to those at the top. So I wish you good luck, you may need it more than those of us who have rather smaller ambitions than to install hegemony by force on the whole world.
abelardlindsay wrote:About being a neo-con, the shortest simplest explanation for my beliefs is that someone has to be the hegemonic superpower and it better be the United States rather than Russia or China.
Jack wrote: the Neocon view is not shared by everyone -
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