OilFinder2 wrote:Our post-carbon future. The Mojave Desert, circa 2050.
OilFinder2 wrote:Our post-carbon future. The Mojave Desert, circa 2050.
JT national park isn't. The locals are raising hell about putting transmission lines through Pioneer Town/Morongo and have succeeded in blocking anything so far, so I doubt anyone would even think about putting a site in JT. All the projects so far are located outside of any National Park Service/Forest Service/etc, eg protected land. Yes, any parts of the desert are an ecosystem, but given the ecosystem in the lower desert, I imagine it wouldn't be to hard to let native species grow around the collectors, since it's not sunlight that's the limiting factor, but water.Ludi wrote:OilFinder2 wrote:Our post-carbon future. The Mojave Desert, circa 2050.
Screw all the plants and animals that live there, huh? After all, it isn't an ecosystem, it's just a desert!
Mojave ecosystem-Joshua Tree
Professor Membrane wrote: Not now son, I'm making ... TOAST!
No solar panels AFAIK. Just solar collectors, ie mirrors, heating up some central location, where whatever they're heating up is used to heat water/create steam and spin turbines to make electricity, or in some cases power Stirling engines.burtonridr wrote:Great! Just what I needed
Now the price of solar panels are going to sky rocket
Professor Membrane wrote: Not now son, I'm making ... TOAST!
emersonbiggins wrote:OilFinder2 wrote:Our post-carbon future. The Mojave Desert, circa 2050.
That rendering looks about 50 years old.
There's probably a lesson in that somewhere.
OilFinder2 wrote:emersonbiggins wrote:OilFinder2 wrote:Our post-carbon future. The Mojave Desert, circa 2050.
That rendering looks about 50 years old.
There's probably a lesson in that somewhere.
Actually it's about 30 years old (a Robert McCall painting). But it looks kinda cool anyway.
emersonbiggins wrote:They've definitely got the setting right - looks like the Colorado River to me.
McCall - I'm going to have to look him up. I can't wait to see what life will be like in the year 2000, you know.
yesplease wrote:No solar panels AFAIK. Just solar collectors, ie mirrors, heating up some central location, where whatever they're heating up is used to heat water/create steam and spin turbines to make electricity, or in some cases power Stirling engines.burtonridr wrote:Great! Just what I needed
Now the price of solar panels are going to sky rocket
After a couple years of thinking about it, the only savior for our economy and way of life is to devote all our resources towards a state of the art, renewable electrical grid.
Cabrone wrote:Once you have the network you can bring your full range of renewables on line - plentiful solar in southern europe\north africa (huge resource), plentiful wind and wave in northern\western europe and biomass wherever there is availability.
The problem isn't with the amount of renewables (there's heaps of energy out there) it's the network and how you engineer it.
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