Heineken wrote:Millions upon millions of older Americans and women and disabled people simply cannot ride these things.
jato wrote:A small displacement scooter will not work in my area. I need to go with the flow of traffic at 60 MPH. Therefore, I will be purchasing a KLR650, which gets 50-60 MPG. I will commute on the KLR.
Gasoline prices do not scale like oil prices do, due to taxation/refining/distribution costs. Since 2000, at ~$20/bbl, oil has increase in price by ~6.5 times, while gasoline has increased in price ~2.7 times. At $250/bbl, assuming the same increase, gasoline would be ~5.2 times what it used to be, and in order to pay the same on fuel, the average American driver would need a vehicle that gets ~88mpg, roughly what a small scooter gets.dohboi wrote:Even if they get ten times the gas millage, they will be obsolete within a few years. Oil prices have gone up more than ten fold in about eight years. That rate seems to be now accelerating. Get over oil-powered transport.
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Hawkcreek wrote:Where did you go to and is your ass still numb?
Went from Spokane to Prineville and Bend Oregon and back. Lots of back roads.
My ass is doing fine. I have been riding bikes for over 40 years, and learned all the tricks for being comfortable years ago. (or maybe my ass just went numb)
Anyway, the KLR is a great ride. If I were going to ride 2 thousand miles I would probably take another bike, but for a short one, the KLR does fine.
emersonbiggins wrote:Americans on mopeds - something doesn't quite add up...
That's definitely true, good catch. Assuming oil goes to $250/bbl, the current cost of crude per gallon of gas, .73($3.46)=$2.53, would go to (250/130)$2.53=$4.86 plus taxes at .11*$4.86=$.53, and refinery/marketing (shouldn't change a whole lot) at .16($3.46)=$.55, so gas should be ~$6/gallon, or ~4.7 times what it was in Jan of 2000.dohboi wrote:yp wrote: "assuming the same increase"
Is this a good assumption? Surely, the whole sale oil price will have an ever-greater and more direct affect on retail gas price as the former goes through the roof.
Professor Membrane wrote: Not now son, I'm making ... TOAST!
Frank wrote:Check out: http://www.msf-usa.org/
If you start riding you'll probably wonder why you didn't start 30 years earlier! Definitely take a safety course though: you can often sign-up somewhere and get a beginner's permit in one weekend.
good luck!
Mileage varies a lot depending on whether the scooter is 2 or 4 stroke, your weight - much more influence than with a car - and how you drive. Driving gently using hypermiling techniques has a big influence. I drive a Honda SH125i, 2007 model, liquid cooled, fuel injected 'large wheel' motor scooter. I'm getting 100MPG (imperial gallon & Im ..um.. weighty and 6'1"). Other bloggers have reported up to 125MPG. (imperial).frankthetank wrote:A guy at Menards yesterday claimed he put on 459 miles using 3 gallons of gas on a scooter (guessing a 49cc model)?? I didn't think they got that good of fuel mileage. The dude was like 300 pounds!
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