JohnDenver wrote:We all know the reality of peak oil:
1) With a population of 6.4 billion, we've drastically overshot the carrying capacity of the earth. Therefore, most of these people -- optimistically 85%, but more realistically 95% -- will have to perish shortly in the big "die-off". This outcome is completely unavoidable, and there is NO SOLUTION. NOTHING can stop the big die-off from happening.
lorenzo wrote:If anyone is going to die, it's going to be fat Westerners who die of heart attacks because they have to ride a bicycle for the first time in their lives, instead of a terroristsic SUV.
lorenzo wrote:So I think the big die-off scenario is a bit over the top. If anyone is going to die, it's going to be fat Westerners who die of heart attacks because they have to ride a bicycle for the first time in their lives, instead of a terroristsic SUV.
lorenzo wrote:JohnDenver wrote:We all know the reality of peak oil:
1) With a population of 6.4 billion, we've drastically overshot the carrying capacity of the earth. Therefore, most of these people -- optimistically 85%, but more realistically 95% -- will have to perish shortly in the big "die-off". This outcome is completely unavoidable, and there is NO SOLUTION. NOTHING can stop the big die-off from happening.
Let's not forget that every single American consumes as much oil as one hundred third world people.
Millions of people in the third world have been living without oil for decades (or they've never used oil in the first place), and they cope very well. They produce their own food. They don't have cars. They have been surviving all along.
So I think the big die-off scenario is a bit over the top. If anyone is going to die, it's going to be fat Westerners who die of heart attacks because they have to ride a bicycle for the first time in their lives, instead of a terroristsic SUV.
lorenzo wrote:JohnDenver wrote:We all know the reality of peak oil:
Millions of people in the third world have been living without oil for decades (or they've never used oil in the first place), and they cope very well. They produce their own food. They don't have cars. They have been surviving all along.
So I think the big die-off scenario is a bit over the top. If anyone is going to die, it's going to be fat Westerners who die of heart attacks because they have to ride a bicycle for the first time in their lives, instead of a terroristsic SUV.
JohnDenver wrote:Why should I do anything, or buy into anybody's agenda, if I'm going to die?
lorenzo wrote:Let's not forget that every single American consumes as much oil as one hundred third world people.
Millions of people in the third world have been living without oil for decades (or they've never used oil in the first place), and they cope very well. They produce their own food. They don't have cars. They have been surviving all along.
So I think the big die-off scenario is a bit over the top. If anyone is going to die, it's going to be fat Westerners who die of heart attacks because they have to ride a bicycle for the first time in their lives, instead of a terroristsic SUV.
Tyler_JC wrote:Has anyone here heard of the UN vaccination programs? They go into 3rd world countries and give vaccines to children.
What happens when the UN isn't there to protect these dirty, overcrowded people from disease?
What happens when grain and other foodstuffs aren't given to them in times of famine?
What happens when global warming turns the savana into a desert?
lorenzo wrote:I'm calculating how much oil we would save per year if we stopped flying jumbojets full of Kiwis from New Zealand to Europe and America.
0mar wrote:Much of the 3rd world is propped up by food supplies which are derived from pesticides and fertilizers, both of which consume limited supplies of oil and natural gas.
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