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Re: Will dying in large numbers in wars be back?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 23 Nov 2006, 16:49:55

Quigley wrote:
seahorse2 wrote:Ghengis Khan was successful using horses (a weapon) on the open fields, but was fought to a standstill by the Romans in the woods of France.


You`ve mixed up Ghengis Khan and Attila the Hun. Ghengis Khan`s expansion ended in Russia while Attila was defeated somewhere in France (Champagne).


You are mistaken here. Ghenghis Khan had united France with Korea and Malaysia with Siberia.
He was not defeated in Russia. He had conquered any place in Western Europe, which he had seen worth conquering.
However his empire collapsed soon after his death.
His grand son (Batu Khan) was defeated in Russia, but he still managed to rule part of it.

Re Attila: He was not defeated in battle in Champagne, but he was defeated by one well born Roman bitch (forgot her name) who stabbed him to death while beeing fucked (so one story tells...)

Seahorse,
It would be really interesting to see Ghengis Khan battling Romans.
Sadly they never met.
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Re: Will dying in large numbers in wars be back?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 23 Nov 2006, 17:17:37

Quigley wrote:You`ve mixed up Ghengis Khan and Attila the Hun. Ghengis Khan`s expansion ended in Russia while Attila was defeated somewhere in France (Champagne).


As you aparrently are German, I bet you are aware of so-called "Hun speech" by your beloved Emperor Wilhelm about 15 years before WW I.
On 27th July 1900 he had said to German soldiers of the time: "You have to know no mercy...do not take war prisoners and kill any Chineese, who fall in your hands...make sure, that the word German will make any Chinese as terrified as name of Attila the Hun was terrifying Europeans of the past..."
And so all Germans had became "Huns of XX century".
Adolf Hitler was not the first btw.
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Re: Will dying in large numbers in wars be back?

Unread postby Quigley » Thu 23 Nov 2006, 17:23:08

EnergyUnlimited wrote:You are mistaken here. Ghenghis Khan had united France with Korea and Malaysia with Siberia.
He was not defeated in Russia.

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Re Attila: He was not defeated in battle in Champagne, but he was defeated by one well born Roman bitch (forgot her name) who stabbed him to death while beeing fucked (so one story tells...)


Well, maybe in your world Ghenghis Khan was to France. But in the real world, he has never been there.

Attila was defeated there, not killed. That`s two different things.
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Re: Will dying in large numbers in wars be back?

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Fri 24 Nov 2006, 10:29:26

Quigley wrote:
EnergyUnlimited wrote:You are mistaken here. Ghenghis Khan had united France with Korea and Malaysia with Siberia.
He was not defeated in Russia.

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Re Attila: He was not defeated in battle in Champagne, but he was defeated by one well born Roman bitch (forgot her name) who stabbed him to death while beeing fucked (so one story tells...)


Well, maybe in your world Ghenghis Khan was to France. But in the real world, he has never been there.

Attila was defeated there, not killed. That`s two different things.


From Wiki
...Emperor, and the King of France, but none seemed interested, and all seemed to have the same profound misunderstanding of the threat posed by the Mongol armies, which stood by this time within a week's ride from the borders of France.


OK, Mongols did not get to France, but they were quite close to.
Few years after death of Ginghis Khan they had defeated Hungarian, Polish and German armies.
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