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Unread postby theluckycountry » Thu 19 Oct 2023, 20:14:05

Who is Hamas, or more to the point, who funds them, who is pulling the strings?

Less than a month ago...
Thursday, September 28, 2023

Is a Saudi-Israel Normalization Agreement on the Horizon?
While progress has reportedly been made in talks, there are many complicating factors to securing such an historic deal. The deal would be a tectonic shift in Middle East geopolitics, but also carries major implications for other actors beyond the three negotiating parties. Israel would, of course, benefit from normalized relations with the Saudis — long seen as the “holy grail” of potential normalization agreements for the country. The Saudis, in turn, would see their interests advanced through strengthened U.S partnership in key areas.

But this deal could also have serious implications for the future of the Palestinian national movement and, further afield, for the role of China in the Middle East.
https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/ ... nt-horizon

Let us not forget, the arab world is divided between sunni and shia, a division that dates back to the death of the Prophet Muhammadin in 632.

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some old news.
29/08/2019
The United States on Thursday announced sanctions in Lebanon and Oman aimed at shutting down financing to the Iranian-backed group Hezbollah and the Palestinian Hamas militants.
https://www.france24.com/en/20190829-us ... -hezbollah

So it is the Shia faction that want's to eradicate the jews.

Remember when Egyptian President Anwar Sadat made the peace with Israel
the U.S. and Israeli delegations agreed to a treaty text on March 13. Sadat quickly assented to the agreement and the Egyptian-Israeli Peace Treaty was formally signed on March 26 1977.
https://history.state.gov/milestones/19 ... camp-david

Anwar Sadat was then assassinated on 6 October 1981

Egypt is predominately sunni, like Saudi Arabia. The three nations that fund the anti-jooish terrorists are all Shia, as per the map above. Now is it any wonder that the Shia backed Hamas chose this time to attack into Israel? Just as the Saudis were preparing for a quasi peace deal? Politics, that's all it is. Stupid muslim politics.
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The British Prime Minister, Rishi Sunak, flew to Saudi Arabia from Israel on Thursday evening to hold crisis talks with Mohammed bin Salman

MBS looks like he wants to take a dump, or just smelled one? Rishi is a practicing Hindu! Talk about payback, a century ago the British Raj controlled all india, it was the jewel in the crown.

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George V (1865-1936) King of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and Emperor of India.

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Unread postby Tanada » Fri 20 Oct 2023, 09:23:42

US military shoots down missiles and drones as it faces growing threats in volatile Middle East
WASHINGTON (AP) — With tensions spiking in the Middle East, U.S. forces in the region are facing increasing threats as a Navy warship shot down missiles appearing to head toward Israel Thursday and American bases in Iraq and Syria were repeatedly targeted by drone attacks.

Later, a U.S. official said there had been a rocket attack early Friday morning on U.S. and coalition forces at a diplomatic support center near the Baghdad International Airport. Initial assessments indicated two rockets were fired, the official said, noting that one was intercepted by a counter-rocket system and the other struck an empty storage facility.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss details not yet made public, said no casualties were reported.

Earlier, the USS Carney, a Navy destroyer in the northern Red Sea, intercepted three land attack cruise missiles and several drones that were launched by Houthi forces in Yemen. The action by the Carney potentially represented the first shots by the U.S. military in the defense of Israel in this conflict.

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Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, Pentagon press secretary, told reporters the missiles were “potentially” headed toward Israel but said the U.S. hasn’t finished its assessment of what they were targeting.

A U.S. official said they don’t believe the missiles — which were shot down over the water — were aimed at the U.S. warship. The official spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss military operations that had not yet been announced.

But an array of other drone attacks over the past three days did target U.S. bases, including one in southern Syria on Thursday that caused minor injuries.

The rash of violence comes in the wake of a deadly explosion at a Gaza hospital, triggering protests in a number of Muslim nations. The Israeli military has relentlessly attacked Gaza in retaliation for the devastating Hamas rampage in southern Israel almost two weeks ago, but Israel has denied responsibility for the al-Ahli hospital blast and the U.S. has said its intelligence assessment found that Tel Aviv was not to blame.

In recent days, however, a number of militant groups across the region — from Hezbollah to the Houthis — have expressed support for the Palestinians and threatened Israel. Since Tuesday, militants have launched at least four drone attacks on U.S. military installations in Iraq and Syria where U.S. troops train local defense forces and support the mission to counter the Islamic State group.

The attacks fuel escalating worries in the U.S. and the West that the war in Israel could expand into a larger regional conflict.

“That’s exactly what we are trying to prevent,” Ryder said.

The most recent drone attack was Thursday at al-Asad Air Base in western Iraq. The Islamic Resistance in Iraq posted a statement claiming responsibility for the attack, saying they had fired a salvo of rockets at the base and “they hit their targets directly and precisely.” A U.S. official confirmed the latest attack but said it was too early to assess any impact.

Also Thursday, the al-Tanf garrison in southeastern Syria was struck by drones. U.S. troops have maintained a presence at the base for a number of years to train Syrian allies and monitor Islamic State militant activity.

The Pentagon said one drone was shot down, but another hit the base and caused minor injuries.

The garrison is located on a vital road that often used by Iranian-backed militants to ferry weapons to Hezbollah in southern Lebanon — and Israel’s doorstep.

Syrian opposition activists also said there was a separate drone attack on an oil facility in eastern Syria that houses American troops. Omar Abu Layla, a Europe-based activist who heads the Deir Ezzor 24 media outlet, said three drones with explosives struck the Conoco gas field in the eastern province of Deir el-Zour that borders Iraq. The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, an opposition war monitor, also confirmed explosions at the site.

On Tuesday, militants launched three drones against two Iraq bases that the U.S. uses to train forces and conduct operations against the Islamic State. During the spate of launches, one warning turned out to be a false alarm at al-Asad, but it sent personnel rushing into bunkers. During that incident, a contractor suffered a cardiac arrest and died, Ryder said.

He said the Pentagon does not yet have confirmation on who launched the drone attacks but said the U.S. ”will take all necessary actions to defend U.S. and coalition forces against any threat.” He said any military response would come “at a time and a manner of our choosing.”

Iranian-backed militias in Iraq have sometimes been used as foot soldiers in regional conflicts, including in Syria and Yemen, and have in recent days threatened to attack U.S. facilities in Iraq and elsewere because of American support for Israel.

“Our missiles, drones, and special forces are ready to direct qualitative strikes at the American enemy in its bases and disrupt its interests if it intervenes in this battle,” Ahmad “Abu Hussein” al-Hamidawi, head of the Kataib Hezbollah militia, said in a statement last Wednesday. He also threatened to launch missiles at Israeli targets.

Following the blast at the hospital in Gaza, the group issued another statement in which it blamed the U.S. and its support for Israel for the catastrophe and called for an end to the U.S. presence in Iraq.

“These evil people must leave the country. Otherwise, they will taste the fire of hell in this world before the afterlife,” the statement said.

On the intercepts by the Carney, Ryder said the strikes were done because the Houthi missiles “posed a potential threat” based on their flight profile. He added that the U.S. is prepared to do whatever is needed “to protect our partners and our interests in this important region.” He said the U.S. is still assessing what the target was, but said no U.S. forces or civilians on the ground were injured.

Iranian-backed Houthi rebels have expressed support for the Palestinians and threatened Israel. Last week, in Yemen’s Sanaa, which is held by the Houthi rebels still at war with a Saudi-led coalition, demonstrators crowded the streets waving Yemeni and Palestinian flags. The rebels’ slogan long has been, “God is the greatest; death to America; death to Israel; curse of the Jews; victory to Islam.”

Last week, Abdel-Malek al-Houthi, the rebel group’s leader, warned the United States against intervening in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, threatening that his forces would retaliate by firing drones and missiles.

When approached Thursday, two Houthi officials declined to comment on the incident. One said he was unaware of the incident, while the second said he did not have the authority to speak about it.

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Associated Press writers Abby Sewell in Beirut and Jack Jeffery in Cairo contributed to this report.


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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 21 Oct 2023, 02:56:26

Last week, Abdel-Malek al-Houthi, the rebel group’s leader, warned the United States against intervening in the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hamas, threatening that his forces would retaliate by firing drones and missiles.


lol, yeah right. The only way one will hit a US ship if it's allowed to hit.

The Gulf of Tonkin incident was an international confrontation that led to the United States engaging more directly in the Vietnam War.
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Unread postby Plantagenet » Sat 21 Oct 2023, 14:31:17

theluckycountry wrote:....So it is the Shia faction that want's to eradicate the jews.


Its not that simple.

Actually you can find extremist Shia groups AND extremist Sunni groups who want to murder jews.

Hamas, for example, is a SUNNI group.

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Hamas is a Sunni religious group.

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Unread postby ralfy » Sat 21 Oct 2023, 19:59:23

In light of liberalism, etc., around 80 pct of Israelis support gay marriage, similar to numbers in the U.S.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 29 Oct 2023, 23:38:09

ralfy wrote:In light of liberalism, etc., around 80 pct of Israelis support gay marriage, similar to numbers in the U.S.


The coalition of the perverts.

Now this is interesting. Multi billion dollar gas fields off the Gaza strip, which belong to the HAMAS government, that Israel has been blocking the development of. There is oil on the Palestinian/Israeli territories too, Lots of it, a half a trillion worth according to some.

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Palestine’s forgotten oil and gas resources
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A recent study by the United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD) points out that new discoveries of natural gas in the Levant Basin are in the range of 122 trillion cubic feet, while recoverable oil is estimated at 1.7 billion barrels. These reserves offer an opportunity to distribute and share about $524bn among the different parties in the region.

https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021 ... -resources

Follow the money...
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sat 04 Nov 2023, 17:33:32

Watch: Massive Airstrikes Level Large University In Gaza
https://twitter.com/Timesofgaza/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw

The arabs really poked a stick into the Hornet's nest with this one. The joos are exterminating them, pushing them into the ocean, or Egypt? It's clear by the level of destruction that they don't want that region occupied.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 05 Nov 2023, 21:44:50

Netanyahu's 'Political Days Are Numbered': White House

Joe Biden and top White House aides have discussed the likelihood that Benjamin Netanyahu's “political days are numbered,” and are gauging potential successors as the popularity of the Israeli prime minister continues to plummet following last month's successful Hamas attack on Israel...
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/ ... hite-house

It made me sick just reading the first paragraph because I usually never listen to Anything politicians say because all they do is Lie. But lets have a look. "Popularity continues to plummet?" With who? The Israeli Times polled 400 people to get their proof so I have my doubts. When a nation is attacked and it's leader fights back they Always achieve mass popularity at home. 911 with Bush and the Falklands war with Margret Thatcher to name just two. The comments from the white house are no doubt put out there for the sake of the Hamas leadership. There is nothing those parasites could say that would be of use to an American citizen. Best just not to listen and avoid being conned. Once the Israeli government has pushed Hamas into the Med I think polls may be different.

Meanwhile the vice president Kamala Harris' Stepdaughter Helps Raise $8M For Gaza

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Just look at the self-obsessed dirtbag! If she went over there she'd be raped in a minute, the muslims have zero respect for women like her. This is why I respect Russia. For all it's faults it presents a unified front and doesn't embrace homosexuals. It's still illegal there. You'll never stop these perversions but it's a terrible mistake for a nation to give the behavior sanction. Before you know it you have men getting married and legally adopting little boys.
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Unread postby ralfy » Mon 06 Nov 2023, 01:40:47

"Joe Biden says if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent one to protect US interests"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYLNCcLfIkM
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Wed 08 Nov 2023, 20:41:52

ralfy wrote:"Joe Biden says if Israel didn't exist, the US would have to invent one to protect US interests"


Well he wasn't lying there, the US, from top to bottom has certainly benefited from the control of middle east oil, up to now... And having a friendly nuclear power right there on the doorstep certainly keeps the arabs on their toes. I imagine if Israel was wiped out the arabs would feel a lot more confident but as it stands they are really under the thumb. They talk big but it's all talk. Israel on the other hand talks peace but doesn't hesitate to send it's jets in to destroy arab targets at will, like the Iraqi nuclear reactor in 1981
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4BnSX7_DJs

And Operation Orchard in Syria, 2007 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5U8P7cNvr8
Here the breached Turkish airspace, in Iraq they breached Jordanian and Saudi airspace. They just don't give a shit :lol:
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Many Americans don't like the idea that China, Russia and Israel have Big Balls. And I understand why.
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Unread postby theluckycountry » Mon 20 Nov 2023, 20:24:35

American girl leaves Florida and travels to Israel to join the police force.

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Female fighters filling the ranks of Israeli Border Police troops https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_d0oB38Tyo
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