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THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby Newfie » Thu 16 Sep 2021, 16:39:52

JD,

Not disagreeing with that statement.

I simply noted your linked article did not say what you said it did.

I do math fine, reading is fundamental.
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby jedrider » Fri 17 Sep 2021, 17:20:07

Newfie wrote:JD,

Not disagreeing with that statement.

I simply noted your linked article did not say what you said it did.

I do math fine, reading is fundamental.


The article said that Trump presided over a troop drawdown. If every troop is actually needed to maintain a position, that means that positions were being abandoned left and right. Not technically on the run, but de facto on the run :-)

Elaboration: [So, you have a surge of troop levels and you take more ground. At some point, you stop offensive operations and you maintain positions, and you draw down to that level. After that, any further withdrawal is abondoning positions to the enemy.

I never gave a hood about military operations, but it appears my government loves to waste my money on unwinnable wars, so I do pay some attention to how 'losing' is accomplished.]
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 17 Sep 2021, 17:38:41

jedrider wrote:
Newfie wrote:JD,

Not disagreeing with that statement.

I simply noted your linked article did not say what you said it did.

I do math fine, reading is fundamental.


The article said that Trump presided over a troop drawdown. If every troop is actually needed to maintain a position, that means that positions were being abandoned left and right. Not technically on the run, but de facto on the run :-)

The question then becomes were those drawn down troops actually needed?
Apparently some at least were needed and most importantly those providing intelligence and air support to the Afghan army.
We will never know if Trumps troop levels and plans would have worked out better then the present disaster but it would hard for it to have been any worse.
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby evilgenius » Sun 19 Sep 2021, 09:59:47

What you guys who think the US should have stayed in Afghanistan are really doing is telling this drunk guy that wrote something vulgar in the snow when he was peeing that he has to do something about it, with what he has left. Well, he's out.
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 19 Sep 2021, 12:33:57

Kennedy's refusal to offer air support for the failed Bay of Pigs invasion, a CIA-sponsored mission to overthrow Fidel Castro, was the motivation for the CIA to eliminate Kennedy from the picture altogether. Oswald was a patsy, eliminated in turn to cover their tracks.

Marilyn Monroe assassination:
Nick Redfern's book 'Diary of Secrets: UFO Conspiracies and the Mysterious Death of Marilyn Monroe' alleges that the the 'Gentlemen Prefer Blondes' star was assassinated because US President John F. Kennedy told her about the existence of aliens. This muddies the water of the Kennedy assassination, was it in fact the CIA? Or was it an Alien retribution killing because they had wanted their existence kept a secret from dumb blondes? We may never know...
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Sun 19 Sep 2021, 12:36:58

vtsnowedin wrote: It is a disgrace that will come back to haunt us for decades.

Well you have plenty of them, so what's one more? Personally I think Gilligan's island and F-Troop did more damage.
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Sun 19 Sep 2021, 13:56:00

theluckycountry wrote:
vtsnowedin wrote: It is a disgrace that will come back to haunt us for decades.

Well you have plenty of them, so what's one more? Personally I think Gilligan's island and F-Troop did more damage.

I hardly think any two light hearted slapstick comedy shows air on free TV back during the Vietnam war did anything for or against America's reputation.
The use of agent Orange to defoliate the Vietnamese jungle at that time is another embarrassment all together.
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby ralfy » Sat 17 Jun 2023, 20:04:47

"The Taliban’s Successful Opium Ban is Bad for Afghans and the World"

https://www.usip.org/publications/2023/ ... -and-world
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Re: THE Afghanistan Thread Pt 2 (merged)

Unread postby theluckycountry » Tue 20 Jun 2023, 17:53:50

Good on them. The Chinese struggled with a similar addiction problem caused by the British east india company, enforced by the British military. The pharmaceutical complex wants that opium for it's drugs, the very ones causing the opioid epidemic in America. They should burn the fields and grow olive trees instead, the world would be a better place.
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