Darian S wrote:All over the world debt has been ballooning signalling nonviability of current model.
And what is the "current model"? I am not seeing the sort of strong linkage of debt to oil that peakers do. What I see is a correlation = causation going on in order to try to keep the topic relevant. Debt bombs happen regardless of oil. Anyone who has a credit card knows how easy it is for debt to get out of control. That's what happened in Argentina back in the day and that's what happened in 2008 considering that it was the housing bubble and collateral debt obligations. And the fracking boom was instrumental in pulling the US out of the recession. QE and fracking worked, plain and simple.
ralfy wrote:None of these are related to "greenies" or "porn doomers" but to techno-optimists.
Well, as a thought experiment, imagine that websites like this existed back during the neolithic. And imagine a select few back then realized that agriculture was not sustainable and that left unchecked we might face a global malthusian catastrophe thousands of years down the road. How might that sort of distant threat catalyze day-to-day discussion? The answer is it wouldn't. Nobody would feel any sense of urgency. It would be a purely academic discussion that only autists care about.
That is why the peak oil content of this site is currently worthless. It's not really credible to spin a short or even medium term doomer narrative out of the oil landscape. The best that's being done is to suggest that oil is the invisible source of "all bad things(TM)".
That dog doesn't hunt.
Meanwhile if you hit up google news on any given day it's hard not to stumble over a few new reports outlining how global warming keeps getting steadily worse.
But no, let's keep trying to sound the alarm on peak oil (or more appropriately the debt bomb masquerading as peak oil).
I simply can't imagine a scenario that would usher in Mad Max at present. Even if Saudi Arabia started hitting empty in the next few years all it would do is cause the transport sector to transition to BEVs at maximum speed.
If you can't have Mad Max then you can't really generate enough dread to fuel a forum like this. What you get in its place are, like I said, those tunnel-vision types who frame the world as being nothing but the direct product of oil. Your ETP and POD nonsense. There's a reason why so few people believe that, but that won't change those who do from feeling they know more than everyone else.