Carnot wrote:To shut this site down would be a shame. I must confess that certain posters seem to be more interested in causing offence than actually debating. For that reason I backed away as I do not wish to be involved in puerile attacks on others.
Carnot wrote:Moving forward the world is going to need a whole lot of petrochemicals. Much of those petrochemicals will come from oil, currently about 10% of oil production and growing rapidly.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Carnot wrote:Moving forward the world is going to need a whole lot of petrochemicals. Much of those petrochemicals will come from oil, currently about 10% of oil production and growing rapidly.
This much is clear. Barring new technology we can't imagine that somehow makes all petrochemicals globally obsolete, plenty of oil will be required over time -- and the oil required for that segment will grow a LOT over time. (Even if the global population flattens, the middle class lifestyle demands will grow that need immensely).
To me, that's just another reason to pursue vehicle electrification as rapidly as it's economically feasible. Why burn a valuable resource that rapidly growing numbers of people will consider vital for things like medical plastics, etc. for MANY decades to come? (Oh, and screw up the environment more than efficient EV's over a vehicle's lifecycle, as well).
ROCKMAN wrote:if there's no interest then the sites dies a natural death.
asg70 wrote:ROCKMAN wrote:if there's no interest then the sites dies a natural death.
For all intents and purposes (coronavirus boost excepted) there IS no interest, but with a site hanging on a domain like this, despite the fact the peak oil movement is all but defunct, you're gonna have a few holdouts. I would think if Matt had kept Life After the Oil Crash going there would probably also still be a few holdouts over there yammering away. He pulled the plug because he himself had tapped out of the doomer scene. So it's really up to the ownership of this site in the end to throw in the towel. But objectively speaking this site is a shadow of its former self. You only have to read through the archives to be reminded of that.
REAL Green wrote:Who cares about a “movement” being defunct?
REAL Green wrote:Peak oil is far from dead.
REAL Green wrote:PO ugly head will raise over the next years
REAL Green wrote:I am not talking about Hubert PO. I am talking about Rockman’s peak oil dynamics.
REAL Green wrote:techno optimism and calling into question anything related to decline.
REAL Green wrote:You try to put a happy face on current events and say all will be well while you show contempt for others opinion indicating worry.
ROCKMAN wrote:I suspect you are very familiar with the "POD" concept the Rockman coined some time ago.
ROCKMAN wrote:It's all part of the POD: Peak Oil Dynamic.
asg70 wrote:You try to put a happy face on current events and say all will be well while you show contempt for others opinion indicating worry.
I show contempt because I've been exposed to too many chicken little predictions. I mean, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice shame on me.
asg70 wrote:ROCKMAN wrote:I suspect you are very familiar with the "POD" concept the Rockman coined some time ago.
Yes, plus your odd Gollum-like penchant of referring to yourself in the 3rd person.ROCKMAN wrote:It's all part of the POD: Peak Oil Dynamic.
Slapping the word "dynamic" on peak oil doesn't mean you can proceed to connect the term to anything and everything. That's your mental misfire, not mine.
REAL Green wrote:Rockman's POD is an excellent term that covers all those negative issues the modern world has with increasingly expensive and scare[sic] high quality oil.
asg70 wrote:REAL Green wrote:Rockman's POD is an excellent term that covers all those negative issues the modern world has with increasingly expensive and scare[sic] high quality oil.
Um, we're in a glut right now. So even according to that logic it makes no sense.
REAL Green wrote:This glut is mainly an economic condition based upon a demand shock.
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