Cog wrote:If you can't put a 4 by 8 sheet of plywood in it, it's not really a pickup truck. I suppose some yuppie who drives a Hummer might think it's cool. But for a working man, hell no.
rockdoc123 wrote:With regards to plug-in hybrids an interesting approach to all the current problems seems to have been taken by Land Rover (no longer English owned but instead owned by the Indian company Tata).
The new Range Rover hybrid is cheaper than the high-end Tesla and basically looks exactly like a normal ICE Range Rover. It has a plug-in hybrid engine but what differs here is the range on electric alone is only about 50 km before it reverts to the combustion engine. I think what Land Rover had in mind here was that for folks who use their vehicle for daily commutes the hybrid can handle that task. When they head out on the weekends further afield the ICE part of the equation comes into play. I like this idea and it is appropriate to where I live given the complete paucity of EV charging stations outside of the main city centre (where I am nowhere near).
This is an appropriate response to the problem I think versus the pie in the sky approaches that assume all the necessary elements for a problem-free EV existence will suddenly appear tomorrow.
rockdoc123 wrote:If some woke individual drove one of those things onto most of the ranches in my neighborhood Musk would have to fix the "bulletproof" issue first.
Your neighborhood sounds like the type who roll-coal on anyone who doesn't drive a V-8. Do you really think an electric powerplant will sell with them even in a conventional package?
Not to say that you have to learn to love to drive something that looks like this, but just that progress will move forward regardless of luddites.
I can foresee a time when the first guy in the neighborhood has an electric truck (other than the Cybertruck) and he attaches trailer-hitches and drags all the other trucks down the road like in the Cybertruck demo.
Performance trumps tradition.
Tesla has received almost 150,000 orders for its new pickup truck, boss Elon Musk has said, despite an embarrassing hiccup at its launch.
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Tesla shares dived 6.1% after the event on Thursday and several bad reviews.
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But on Saturday Mr Musk tweeted: "146k Cybertruck orders so far, with 42% choosing dual, 41% tri & 17% single motor".
The demand had come despite "no advertising & no paid endorsement" for the truck, he said.
No date has been given for the Cybertruck's release, but analysts said it would not be ready before the end of 2021 at the earliest.
after all, no one is really going to buy a vehicle and drive it in area where flying steel balls will be aimed at it.
dolanbaker wrote:If the glass didn't break, the news coverage would have been far more muted.
rockdoc123 wrote:after all, no one is really going to buy a vehicle and drive it in area where flying steel balls will be aimed at it.
except maybe the police in downtown Chicago
asg70 wrote: Not to say that you have to learn to love to drive something that looks like this, but just that progress will move forward regardless of luddites.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:climate change, overpopulation, spread of idiocracy from the West to all other corners of the world or global pandemic can nullify recent progress in short to medium term.
asg70 wrote:What I think is most likely to happen is that EVs will scale up over the next 10 years or so to the point that even if oil depletion kicks into high gear I don't think we'll face the sort of Mad Max scenario peakers have been waiting for all this time. The OTHER dooms will take center stage instead.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Climate change may well deliver Mad Max within 2-5 decades. Actually (assuming we call Arab migrants in Europe climate refugees) we can already see Mad Max land emerging here and there in Western Europe.
So for example Eurostat have reported rape statistics:
Funny thing is that approximately the more woman rights particular country have, the more rapes are going on there. But again, number of woman rights and number of Muslims in a given country for some reason go hand in hand.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
This effect is not limited to Muslim countries either, until the late 20th century in North America claiming rape would result in a woman being questioned mercilessly about her past sexual experiences in court in front of the man or men who had violated her.
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