So do. Oh dent the Arctic is warming? If not then by what process?
Not understanding the question....some typos in there me thinks.
So do. Oh dent the Arctic is warming? If not then by what process?
How reliable is geologic dating?
https://www.sciencemeetsreligion.org/ev ... bility.php
(long article - excerpt)
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Along this line, Roger Wiens, a scientist at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, asks those who are skeptical of radiometric dating to consider the following (quoted in several cases from [Wiens2002]):
There are well over forty different radiometric dating methods, and scores of other methods such as tree rings and ice cores.
All of the different dating methods agree--they agree a great majority of the time over millions of years of time. Some [skeptics] make it sound like there is a lot of disagreement, but this is not the case. The disagreement in values needed to support the position of young-earth proponents would require differences in age measured by orders of magnitude (e.g., factors of 10,000, 100,000, a million, or more). The differences actually found in the scientific literature are usually close to the margin of error, usually a few percent, not orders of magnitude!
Vast amounts of data overwhelmingly favor an old Earth. Several hundred laboratories around the world are active in radiometric dating. Their results consistently agree with an old Earth. Over a thousand papers on radiometric dating were published in scientifically recognized journals in the last year, and hundreds of thousands of dates have been published in the last 50 years. Essentially all of these strongly favor an old Earth.
Radioactive decay rates have been measured for over sixty years now for many of the decay clocks without any observed changes. And it has been close to a hundred years since the uranium-238 decay rate was first determined.
A recent survey of the rubidium-strontium method found only about 30 cases, out of tens of thousands of published results, where a date determined using the proper procedures was subsequently found to be in error.
Both long-range and short-range dating methods have been successfully verified by dating lavas of historically known ages over a range of several thousand years.
The mathematics for determining the ages from the observations is relatively simple.
Ibon wrote:We wont do anything but many things will be done to us.
Newfie wrote:Ibon wrote:We wont do anything but many things will be done to us.
That is undoubtedly true, but I don’t intend to be passive in that interaction.
How reliable is geologic dating?
rising levels of atmospheric CO2 coincide with rising temperatures (that mechanism is well understood),
that the vast majority of climate and atmospheric scientists agree that humans are warming the planet,
that the Arctic and Greenland are melting at an accelerating rate,
that this process has been scientifically predicted for over 100 years,
that most current organisms on Earth are adapted to a fairly narrow range of temperatures,
I think the bigger and better argument to tackle is the concept of unlimited growth. It’s like someone trying to argue for a perpetual motion machine. And the science well and truly is settled on that, I thin Roc will even stipulate to that one.
It seems now anybody who believes CO2 is completely responsible for everything that has ever happened with climate whether they have a degree beyond high school or journalism school, have ever read a technical journal etc. seems to believe they are completely right....ignore all the evidence to the contrary, must stay a member of the team. ....
rockdoc123 wrote: Science in this area has taken a massive step backwards because of this very inappropriate group think.
Nobody cares much if you have an issue with how carbon emissions are portrayed, especially when you are in service of an industry that has the most to lose. They just want people to stop burning so much stuff.
Newfie wrote:Roc,
The average guy is gonna loose because of all the damage that carbon does, even if not through CC.
The best way for the average guy to protect himself is to learn how to live with less and be happy.
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