I'm curious myself. Plant, you have consistently been anti-EV from the get go. And it's not like you have one particular thing you dislike about EVs. Instead you seem to spread FUD about anything you can find on EVs. And if someone brings up a logical counter to an argument you made you ignore them, snipe at them personally, and/or revert to spreading FUD. So what is it? Did Grandma get run over by an EV? Or perhaps is it something like this:KaiserJeep wrote:Plant, you display all signs of a hatred for Tesla, or the company founder Elon Musk, or both. I don't know what your problem is - perhaps you "invested" some cash in Tesla stock as I did an eternity ago in the Cape Wind offshore wind farm. Eventually I got over the sting of losing $7500.
So what is it, anyway?
Confession of a paid basherToday I want to come clean about something I feel very badly about. I cannot undo some of the things I have done, but hopefully this message will prevent other such occurrences in the future.
I am a paid basher.
Yes, it is true. Today is my last day at this company; I'm moving on to a new job. I've realized that there are more dignifying jobs out there that can pay me equally as well. But before I go, I want to explain a few things because this just isn't right and I won't feel good about myself until I expose this sham. It's hurt too many people and I don't want it on my conscience anymore. I can no longer live with a lie.
There are several companies engaged in the bashing business, ours is not the only one. However, I can tell you that not every basher in here is a paid basher. Having done this for a year, I can usually tell who is a paid basher and who is merely someone having a little fun. While unpaid bashers have a different motive than someone like me, they can be unwilling accomplices to helping me achieve my ultimate goal and they also spread rumor and confusion throughout a room, which also helps me.
There are three types of bashers here at Global Calumny Funds: Advanced, Intermediate and Beginner. An Advanced-level basher (also known as a Silver Tongued Devil) would spread false or misleading information about the company. They would deal in facts, countering every longs post with articles, news reports and opinion surveys that gave a negative impression about the company.
Finally, a Beginner-level basher (also known as a Pitchfork) would attempt to create confusion in the room by distracting other posters with satire, name calling and pointless arguments. The idea was to make sure no serious discussion of the stock could take place. A Pitchfork was usually a basher, but not always. Sometimes, we would throw in a hypster Pitchfork such as MONEYMADE and laptop and a pumper like Datatech to create the illusion of an argument going on. What was really funny (in a perverse way, I guess) was that Datatech and I sat next to each other, laughing the whole time.
Plantagenet wrote:The car wasn't charging or even plugged in. It just self-combusted.
I must confess I'm disappointed to read this since TESLA recently announced they had "fixed" the self-combustion problem. Maybe they will now issue a fix to correct their latest fix and really fix it.
Cheers!
StarvingLion wrote:Lets all go to Scamerica and run a Solar Panel scam.
Ghung the Fake Solar Peasant will be proud!
Don't worry the stock won't go down, just another Mafia.
asg70 wrote:All I can say is it takes a special kind of incompetence to make solar panels of all things catch fire. No batteries there. The amount of delusion Tesla fanbois need to be under to maintain their unwavering support is unprecedented.
GHung wrote:Not sure what Tesla's PV issue is.
asg70 wrote:GHung wrote:Not sure what Tesla's PV issue is.
I do. Elon Musk.
The fish rots from the head down.
I have had trouble keeping up with executive departures lately, BTW, including Elon's right-hand-man JB Straubel (IMHO, a very serious inflection point)
Here's the most recent:
https://electrek.co/2019/08/21/tesla-he ... ructuring/
If it keeps going like this Tesla will be nothing but Musk with bloodshot eyes running around the factory by himself with a bunch of empty redbull cans stacked against the walls.
GHung wrote:Yes. Musk built, installed, wired, and personally inspected the PV arrays that caught fire? Thanks!
GHung wrote:GHung wrote:Not sure what Tesla's PV issue is.
I'm no electrician by any means, but a couple really blatant things caught my eye in the CNBC article I read about it:Walmart claimed, among myriad complaints, that “Tesla routinely deployed individuals to inspect the solar systems who lacked basic solar training and knowledge.” In the suit, they also alleged that Tesla failed to ground its solar and electrical systems properly, and that Tesla-installed solar panels on-site at Walmart stores contained a high number of defects that were visible to the naked eye, and which Tesla should have found and repaired before they led to fires.
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Another article with more detail / background on the Tesla Solar Roof fires at Walmart.
If the allegations are even remotely true, this has to be TERRIBLE news for Tesla. And again, given the "three stooges" way the car operations are run, per incidents and customer complaints in many articles and that trend being verified by overall data from Consumer Reports, my instinct is to believe Walmart's overall side of the story.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/factbox- ... 38593.html
Oh, and this definitely makes me more cautious about solar panels on my roof in general. I was already concerned about the roof leaking / roof warranty issue. But add to that the fire risk and the way so many companies don't do consistent work (not just solar companies) generally, and this doesn't look like a no-brainer to me -- even IF the economics hold up if nothing goes wrong. (I might still consider a set for my back yard, away from the house, if the economics are right).
But of course given the amount of Musk worship that exists, I expect people will go right on having Tesla install solar panels on their houses.
Walmart hired SolarCity to install solar panel systems on at least 244 of its stores. Tesla bought SolarCity in 2016, and Walmart alleges that Tesla did not fix the problems it inherited and was negligent itself. .....
It found Tesla put wires near sharp points and metal edges, used incorrect connectors that built up heat and failed properly to tighten connectors, used plastic tools with insufficient strength and plumbing tools, and improperly grounded systems, and kept poor records. ......
Over the course of Walmart inspections it says it finds hotspots in solar panels' cracked sheets, compromising electrical insulation. ....
GHung wrote: Tesla apparently didn't manufacture or install these products, only failed to fix the problems it bought into.
Plantagenet wrote:Vanity Fair has just published a major expose exposing the financial shenanigans Musk pulled off when he had Tesla buy Solar City (and bail him and his cousins out from huge financial losses)
how-elon-musk-gambled-tesla-to-save-solarcity
Cheers!
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