Yoshua wrote:Iran .... terror attacks, which has led to rising insurance costs for tankers loading in the Gulf.
waterpowerman1 wrote:It looks like SOMEONE has some high tech drones capable of long range and significant payload. They didn't buy them at Walmart. I don't give the Iranians or their minions in Somalia that much credit. The other guys though......
Yoshua wrote:Iran is a terrorist nation, jihad is their religion.
War it is.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-13/2-tankers-damaged-after-suspected-torpedo-attack-near-strait-hormuz-oil-soarsAnd BBG's Javier Blas pointed out that should Iran be found responsible, it would be a strange turn of events since the Front Altair is owned by John Frederiksen, the owner of the Frontline Tanker company, who moved oil for Iran during the "tanker war" with Iraq.
Shi'ites have no real terrorist organization to their name, unless you swallow the BS about Hezbollah.
Ibon wrote:Skepticism about the major narrative unfolding is wise.
We no longer trust governments even our own. We no longer trust corporations especially those Eisenhower warned us about.
And of course the oil companies would love constraints caused by geopolitical conflict as this would increase the price of oil.
We no longer live in a world where a sense of trust and faith and goodness rules.
We live in a world of nefarious manipulations.
Nothing would surprise me.
I would never allow a young man of my blood be a pawn of scheisters.
We no longer live in a world of noble leaders
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:Ibon wrote:Skepticism about the major narrative unfolding is wise.
We no longer trust governments even our own. We no longer trust corporations especially those Eisenhower warned us about.
And of course the oil companies would love constraints caused by geopolitical conflict as this would increase the price of oil.
We no longer live in a world where a sense of trust and faith and goodness rules.
We live in a world of nefarious manipulations.
Nothing would surprise me.
I would never allow a young man of my blood be a pawn of scheisters.
We no longer live in a world of noble leaders
We have always lived in a world where back room deals between people of influence and power determined the general direction of civilization. To believe everything was open for Joe6P to judge based on objective facts is simply naive, and hopelessly so. In this respect the 21st century is no different than the 11th or the 1st because these realities are driven by human nature, and human nature has not changed.
Ibon wrote:With this still so fresh on all our minds I find it astonishing how quickly folks jump on to the bandwagon based on a fuzzy video clip that this was the act of Iran. How about a little consistency regarding healthy skepticism?
Cog wrote:Well the US Navy can put every Iranian naval asset on the bottom of the Persian Gulf, so I'd say that would be something.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:Trump is .... Jesus, so he must be right.
EnergyUnlimited wrote:....Obama...
EnergyUnlimited wrote: ....WWIII ....
Shaved Monkey wrote:Operator of tanker says sailors saw 'flying objects' just before attack
TOKYO
The Japanese operator ship operator of one of two oil tankers attacked near the Strait of Hormuz on Thursday said that sailors on board its vessel, the Kokuka Courageous, saw "flying objects" just before the attack, suggesting the tanker wasn't damaged by mines.
Shaved Monkey wrote:Speaking at a news conference in Tokyo, Yutaka Katada, president of Kokuka Sangyo Co, said he believes the flying objects seen by the sailors could be bullets
Shaved Monkey wrote:...above water line
War risk premiums that owners pay each time they go to the Persian Gulf have now surged to at least $185,000 for supertankers, according to people with knowledge of the market. They rose to $50,000 after the attacks a month ago.
Six tankers have been hit in the past month in two attacks near the Strait of Hormuz, through which almost a fifth of the world’s oil passes, and Washington and Riyadh have accused Iran of being behind them, which Tehran denies.
By Sal R. Mercogliano – The June 13, 2019 attacks on MV Front Altair and MV Kokuka Courageous, following the assault on four tankers at the anchorage of Fujairah on May 12, has raised the specter of a naval confrontation between Iran and the United States. This method of assault and conflict between these two nations is not new. The United States and Iran were embroiled in an undeclared naval war from 1987 to 1988. The genesis for the largest naval battle fought by the U.S. Navy since the Second World War resulted from the war waged by Iran and Iraq against tankers transiting the Persian Gulf. Today, the Middle East war being waged between Iran, Saudi Arabia, and their proxies eerily look like the situation at the start of the First Tanker War.
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