KaiserJeep wrote:OS, you surprise me. Not the least aspect of that surprise is that you do not self-identify as and in fact decry "liberal do-gooders".
Newfie wrote:Cog wrote:Perhaps you doomers should just start mowing people down in the streets, especially Republicans. That is really what you want to do, so why keep hiding what you are?
OK Cog, you’ve had a couple of folks respond to your troll.
Please respond with something thoughtful.
Many people who live in low-income communities, for example, cannot afford to retrofit their homes to make them more energy efficient, meaning they use more power than necessary, generating more pollution.
dohboi wrote:A new report says that the wider the gap between rich and poor, the more the environment suffers.
To solve climate change, solve income inequality
Many people who live in low-income communities, for example, cannot afford to retrofit their homes to make them more energy efficient, meaning they use more power than necessary, generating more pollution.
https://thinkprogress.org/economic-ineq ... bfb3126ca/
OK, boys and girls, have at it!
Outcast_Searcher wrote:dohboi wrote:A new report says that the wider the gap between rich and poor, the more the environment suffers.
To solve climate change, solve income inequality
Many people who live in low-income communities, for example, cannot afford to retrofit their homes to make them more energy efficient, meaning they use more power than necessary, generating more pollution.
https://thinkprogress.org/economic-ineq ... bfb3126ca/
OK, boys and girls, have at it!
Can the title of the thread be changed to inequality please? (Until I read the OP, I didn't know if it meant inequality or inequity.)
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Another excuse for the left to complain about income inequality. Meanwhile, if you don't stop the endless population growth and BAU growth, the idea that the environmental problems have ANY chance of going away is completely without merit.
In other words, inequality isn't the core problem -- it's just a constant political talking point.
Inequality vs. inequity
Inequity and inequality are closely related in origin and in some of their secondary definitions, so mixing them up is never a serious error, but there are differences between them. Inequality refers primarily to the condition of being unequal, and it tends to relate to things that can be expressed in numbers.1 Inequity, in its main sense, is a close synonym of injustice and unfairness, so it usually relates to more qualitative matters.2 For example, one might say that income inequality results from inequity in society, or that inequality in taxation is a great inequity.
http://grammarist.com/usage/inequality-inequity/
“That was absolutely the intention of this report,” she said, “to get the word out and get people thinking and talking about the fact that inequality drives environmental harm.”
kanon wrote:It is fascinating how the human mind can conflate ideas and avoid the issues. It is very clear that the "rich" countries are responsible for most of the environmental degradation. climate-change
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Speaking of "conflating", your argument merely reflects a certain political point of view instead of honestly looking at the broader picture over a meaningful time frame.
“corporate short-termism, by its very definition, is bad for the environment because the same shareholder incentives that skew companies away from investing in workers, capital, and innovation discourage them from investing in, for example, green retrofitting of existing buildings, sustainable production practices, and even compliance with environmental regulations.”
dohboi wrote:Mods, please correct spelling in the title to 'Inequity'. Thanks.
And thank to all for the discussion so far.
A further quote from the article to consider:“corporate short-termism, by its very definition, is bad for the environment because the same shareholder incentives that skew companies away from investing in workers, capital, and innovation discourage them from investing in, for example, green retrofitting of existing buildings, sustainable production practices, and even compliance with environmental regulations.”
dohboi wrote: .......increasing distances between the ruling elites and the rest of society as prime causes for the instability and collapse of societies. This is mostly due to the elites having less and less interest in anything other than their own aggrandizement, and the rest having less and less power to intervene.
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