Cog wrote:Its possible the cargo ship made a sudden course change and rammed them. Although the ship's captain may get blamed, he might not have been at fault. Its not like he could put on the brakes to avoid this if the container ship did something dumb. Apparently this area is quite busy with ships.
dirtyharry wrote:The US armed forces all(army,air force,navy) are useless and also incompetent . They can only bully small nations and bombard innocent civilians .These guys must be blind to have this accident .
Newfie wrote:Below are some photos of the two ships and the AIS track of the container ship. Note the destroyers AIS does not show. That would mean the destroyer did not have its AIS on. Typical of US Naval vessels.
AIS is a radio based mutual interrogation system. Each ship transmits its heading, speed rate of turn and other info. The receiving ship then compares that data to its own and calculates the closest point of approach, when that will happen, and sends an alarm if it is too close.
Because the destroyer was silent, not transmitting, the container ship AIS could not calculate a collision course. But the Navy ship could.
AUS is required on vessels over 65' and optional below. Because I'm not a damn fool I have AIS and use it. That's how I know USN and USCG often do not. I can physically see them, but not on AIS.
Looking at the AIS track I see the container ship entered the screen on the bottom left. I THINK the commission occured at the first abrupt 90° turn to starboard. I THINK the container ship then moved away a bit to assess damage and then returned to the hit destroyer to render aid before moving off. Hard to be sure without both AIS tracks.
Bottom line, I'm betting the destroyer f'ed up bad.
http://gcaptain.com/high-resolution-pho ... collision/
After looking at the photos a bit more it appears the destroyer was crossing the ships bow from port to starboard (left to right) and just didn't make it. The metal is pressed toward the back of the destroyer. The marks on the container ship show scraping on the port bow from aft to bow in direction. In all likelyhood the destroyer was making a high speed pass in front of the container ship and got too close. The container ship likely made a hard starboard/right turn just before impact.
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Cog wrote:dirtyharry wrote:The US armed forces all(army,air force,navy) are useless and also incompetent . They can only bully small nations and bombard innocent civilians .These guys must be blind to have this accident .
Could you show me on this doll where the US military touched you?
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