sparky wrote:So far in this latest American custom of domestic shooting , I haven't read any howl of protest about banning guns
Well I'm an American. As far as my little opinion goes, I went from neutral about gun control to in favor of it, after Orlando. That was finally enough. There's been too many of these, for far too many years, going back to the 90s and columbine.
America's got a problem about guns. It's a big huge cognitive dissonance problem half the country, the red state Republican states, just will not admit.
It's very sad. Irresponsible government has allowed these assault rifles to become the #1 best seller guns, and there's literally many millions of them out there. It's the #1 rifle.
And now it's happened again -- yet another mass shooting, with AR-15, and 30 round magazines. He probably had body armor, too. He probably bought everything legally, at the local gun shop.
People complain about the police getting militarized -- but it's an arms race, they've had to! This is what they're facing out there on the streets. Thanks to the NRA, the bad guys now have semi autos and high round magazines, and body armor. So it's an arms race, the police will have to further arm up. It's madness.
Do you guys really think it's a good idea that robots with claymore mines become standard law enforcement practice? Or do you think maybe they ought to just ban the assault rifles, and ban body armor sales (or heavily regulate it / require a license), and ban those high round magazines. Laws like what California passed.
GUNS are the central problem -- even this Louisiana incident, the guy's legal conceal carry permitted gun is really what got him shot! From what I saw on the news, someone said "he's got a gun" and then everything escalated and police shot him.
From what one can tell so far, it seems wrongly.. but look folks, JUST HAVING A GUN is a RISK and liability and I have said that a hundred times now on this forum. Did his conceal carry permit help that guy? NO it did not, it got him shot by police.
So often, people's LEGAL guns end in tragedy. This is a peak oil forum -- Mike Ruppert shot himself, don't you all remember that?
And there are so many vets suicides by gun, every day. And so many general public suicides by gun, every day. And so many ACCIDENTS from guns, and children in the home with guns in the home. And there's so many domestic violence incidents with guns, and domestic abusers that have guns. Gun violence and more gun violence, and more gun sales, every day in red state America.
Open carry laws -- it's insane. Texas's open carry just started in January. There were some people walking around downtown with their assault rifles on their back, and THOSE are the ones that got hauled in by police and interrogated, the police thinking they were part of this attack. Turns out it was just run of the mill usual gun nuts in Texas, just walking around with their guns.
Do you guys see, how nuts it is, in an advanced high population society? Things like open carry?
Do you see how legal gun ownership is actually a RISK overall, and a LIABILITY, in a hundred different ways?
The looser the gun laws get, the more military gear that is legal in the gun shops, the worse it is and the worse it gets and the more the police has to militarize and have an arms race and it just all gets worse overall.
But whatever, nobody will listen to reason and logic.
The South and out west, the red states, they'll continue their cognitive dissonance. "Look away, Dixieland, look away." Don't face the problems. It's an old story.