dohboi wrote:I just hadn't hear these particular numbers.
And of course it's rather easy to be sanguine about such dislocations when it isn't oneself being affected.
Newfie wrote:I know exactly what it means, it means you are projecting your interpretation onto my words. For example read your above post.
Humans are one resource we have in super abundance, life is cheap. That is a simple statement of fact. Nothing else. Live with it.
dohboi wrote:So I would just like to hear Newf, Ib and ol say clearly:
"My life is cheap, and there is an overabundance of me and my loved ones."
(Of course, it is possible that I have been deceived all this time, and these worthy posters are not in fact humans, but bots or space aliens, or something...in which case, please ignore!! )
kiwichick wrote:we..........in the "western world" , are all contributing to the problem by consuming more than a fair share of both renewable and non renewable resources
so logically WW (western world ) consumers should both be working towards lowering their current consumption and increasing the efficiency of resource use
while at the same time acknowledging that as the people consuming more than our fair share it is also logical that we are taking the lead in working towards stabilizing our population
women need to be encouraged to delay having their first child
and discouraged from having more than 2 children
and no this will not be enough by itself
but it is the right place to start
Ibon wrote:dohboi wrote:So I would just like to hear Newf, Ib and ol say clearly:
"My life is cheap, and there is an overabundance of me and my loved ones."
(Of course, it is possible that I have been deceived all this time, and these worthy posters are not in fact humans, but bots or space aliens, or something...in which case, please ignore!! )
My life is cheap. There is an overabundance of me and my loved ones because we are members of a species that have gone rogue on the planet and have become Kudzu Apes. I have no problems stating this. Your next question please?
Here we thus have some pieces of the AMOC puzzle that fit beautifully together.
They suggest a weakening of the AMOC by about 15-20 % over the 20th Century, superimposed by some decadal variability. A weak AMOC is found around 1980-1990. After that it recovers somewhat into the early 2000s, as suggested by both the coral data and our AMOC index. Then it declines again, as confirmed by the RAPID data.
For the future, we have every reason to expect that both things will continue: the long-term weakening trend due to global warming, and short-term natural variability. When both work in the opposite direction, the AMOC will strengthen again for a while. When both work in the same direction, record cold in the subpolar Atlantic may result, like last year.
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