[dohboi]

And best wishes on that adventure, truly.

[Newfie]

For everyone.

May you live in interesting times.

[dohboi]

LOL

[ralfy]

The problem Doh is population collapse is inevitable, eventually. Can't stop it.

The only alternative, which I doubt is remotely viable, is "Chicken Coop Earth."

A very good friend, retired minister, did his Peace Corp work in India teaching how to raise chickens. He has gone back a few times. He will no more. He has been convienced, through his own observations, of the futility. He has been convienced of population collapse inevitability. You will find no more empathetic, sympathetic, or rational person on Earth.

Too many of these poor, poor folks are walking dead. It does no good for me to boo hoo about it. Trying to "save" them just assures more of them in the future. It's a mugs game.

It does not mean I'm not sympathetic or indifferent. Just rational. I know the pain, the sorrow, I just don't wear it on my sleeve like a badge.

Such is life.

It should be noted, though, that the poor have been trying to survive for decades through various means, several of which members of the middle class who are aware of these crises are discovering only today.

[Newfie]

Lost me on that one Ralph. Say what?

[ralfy]

Much of the wealth of the middle class consists of money, and that becomes useless as things fall apart. In contrast, much of the wealth of the poor consists of whatever they can gather from their surroundings, which is something that the middle class will end up doing, and which survivalists and preppers are only recently realizing.

Given that, the middle class will likely end up doing joining the poor.

[onlooker]

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?N ... uC6EtDQqKG
Ethiopian farmers need urgent assistance amid major drought, warns UN agency- We shall see if the assistance will be forthcoming. Even though some here have argues perhaps we should just let Nature takes its course.

[Newfie]

It's a heart wrenching situation of you allow it to wash over you.

[Newfie]

It's a heart wrenching situation if you allow it to wash over you.

[onlooker]

It's a heart wrenching situation if you allow it to wash over you.

Yes Newf, yet your point is valid more population now means more dying later. So, from that point of view it is a humanitarian view. Oh by the way how is the sailing? Hope you and your wife are enjoying good weather and a nice peaceful time which I think the sea and lack of too much noise or people can afford you guys.

[Newfie]

Still tied to the dock, or house. Hope to be moving by Friday or Saturday at latest. There is just sooooo much to do.

[onlooker]

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?N ... uS_qNCph9y
Hunger intensifies in areas suffering from drought, flooding and conflict – UN report

[dohboi]

El Niño-related weather has cost billions of dollars in damage and left some 100 million people facing food and water shortages

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/mons ... ther-20138

[Newfie]

Beginning of the end?