StarvingLion wrote:"You can't have infinite growth on a finite planet."
Obviously you sure can.
Tanada wrote:So Pstarr here is how I see it, Uncle Sugar should build a few dozen GTL processing centers to keep the trucks, trains and cargo ships moving and the farm and construction equipment working during the post peak oil declines without crashing the whole economy from physical shortages. At the same time they should be investing every dime they can tax or borrow into non fossil carbon based energy infrastructure to get us off the depleting but heavily polluting energy system we use now.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Ferretlover wrote:SeaGypsy wrote:Don't want to be a party pooper; BUT.
--snip--I could get either of these websites knocked up out of thin air in a day for peanuts. A couple of people to answer phones in a couple different countries..... Just thinking out loud.
Then, I say: Go For It! Wait until naptime, then, email them or get on the phone! If they no longer deal with this product / process, what has been put in place as a suitable substitute to deal with flaring?
Outcast_Searcher wrote:Ferretlover wrote:SeaGypsy wrote:Don't want to be a party pooper; BUT.
--snip--I could get either of these websites knocked up out of thin air in a day for peanuts. A couple of people to answer phones in a couple different countries..... Just thinking out loud.
Then, I say: Go For It! Wait until naptime, then, email them or get on the phone! If they no longer deal with this product / process, what has been put in place as a suitable substitute to deal with flaring?
I was under the impression that in much of the first world, such as the US, that flaring was basically illegal, via EPA enforcement.
However, doing some reading on it via Google searches, it seems that there are many loopholes, delays, etc. so flaring is still likely to be widespread for a long time. For one thing, US fracking has driven the cost of natural gas down by a LOT. Clearly this greatly industry is far less incented to capture the gas unless forced to do so.
Chalk up another absurd counterexample to how much the Paris CO2 emissions limits are likely to do in the real world over the next several years.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
ROCKMAN wrote:Now I have a problem: 1 cu ft of dry NG = 1 Btu. And I bbl diesel = 137,000 Btu. So they say they can convert 10,000 Btu (10,000 scf of NG…their number) of NG into 137,000 Btu of diesel (10,000 scf of NG yields 1 bbl of FT liquid…again their numbers).
That seems to be a rather amazing process. I don’t think I got the numbers wrong but I’m sure some will check on me. LOL. But maybe that's where the 2 MW of power comes in. The 2 MW that magically appear for free. LOL.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
ROCKMAN wrote:T - If the NG has a significant NGL component you strip it out with a JT plant at the wellhead and sell that easily transported liquid for a very nice price. That's what the Rockman does every day in Cameron Ph, La. One does not flare wet gas for two reasons: the value of the easily extracted NGL's and regulatory/air quality issue. And beside: dry NG has about 900 Btu's per scf and very wet NG was around 1,400 Btu's per scf. So using their numbers again they are still trying to turn 14,000 Btu's of wet gas into 137,000 Btu's of diesel. If I've got the numbers correct. My calculation seems ridiculous but that's what my computer tells me. LOL.
ROCKMAN wrote:Now I have a problem: 1 cu ft of dry NG = 1 Btu. And I bbl diesel = 137,000 Btu. So they say they can convert 10,000 Btu (10,000 scf of NG…their number) of NG into 137,000 Btu of diesel (10,000 scf of NG yields 1 bbl of FT liquid…again their numbers).
That seems to be a rather amazing process. I don’t think I got the numbers wrong but I’m sure some will check on me. LOL. But maybe that's where the 2 MW of power comes in. The 2 MW that magically appear for free. LOL.
toolpush wrote:Rockman,
Here is one of their presentation, directed at well head gas
http://www.velocys.com/press/ppt/ppt150 ... um_eng.pdf
The scale is 250-300 bpd, and it quotes 10,000 cf of gas per bbl. So a small gas gather system would be required. They have also investigated siting a plant on an FPSO for offshore work. They were working with Petrobras, not sure what has come of that.
PS
http://www.velocys.com/press/ppt/ppt150 ... um_eng.pdf
The offshore version is mentioned in this one.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
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