furrybill wrote:I voted for NOW. In southern Maine this past winter's 100+ inches of snow and gyrations in temperature [January the warmest on record, February the coldest, March the 2nd warmest, no frost in May, etc.] can all be tied back to global warming. I'm willing to admit that one probably can't relate with 100% certainty my local weather to global climate, but my instincts say the connection exists.
My step-father who lives next door is around 70 years old, grew up across the street, hunted and trapped and farmed here, says the changes are obvious to him. The thing that upsets him about global warming is that it will wipe us out but take most of the rest of the biosphere with us. He was always hoping for a killer virus...
Pops wrote:I clicked 100 years.
The reason for no option between 10 and 100 years is simply that 10 years (not to mention NOW or 10 years ago) is within a window that I would expect lots of people to be talking about all the things they are doing to improve their situation in light of GW. Especially if they already are feeling the effects to such an extent — 10% is a large hit, I'm surprised the economy is on it's feet at all. If my food expenses went from 10% of my income to 20%, I'm pretty sure Id be doing something about it.
Beyond 10 years is so far off to be basically meaningless for most practical intents beyond the stuff a good citizen should be expected to do: reduce, reuse, etc.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:Also I can't speak for anyone else but my food costs have risen quite a bit over the last decade. Have you priced coffee lately?
Pops wrote:Timo:
"If you think GW will not present itself where you live for the next 100 years, you are simply perpetuating the problem"
Ah, so shaming me into jumping on the Doom-Train is your solution to the problem?
The similarity to PO doom 10 years ago is not at all surprising. The great crusade was to convince the skeptics and shame the deniers. Out of the million and whatever posts on this site I wonder exactly how many minds were actually changed. Maybe informed if receptive but changed?
I'm thinking not too many.
Now, if you all posted up your current and ongoing efforts to lower your consumption, income, "footprint", and schemes to avoid the doom that is GW I might be impressed.
Otherwise, I've heard it all before.
Timo wrote:Whatever works. Choose your own medicine. Just don't claim that nobody told you about our collective problems when you had the cahnce to address them. Or, just ignore them and hope they go away.
Do you have any other suggestions for convincing people that our future depends on our present actions?
Pops wrote:Timo wrote:Whatever works. Choose your own medicine. Just don't claim that nobody told you about our collective problems when you had the cahnce to address them. Or, just ignore them and hope they go away.
Your point is than I'm not wringing my hands sufficiently.
My point is you are doing nothing except wring your hands.Do you have any other suggestions for convincing people that our future depends on our present actions?
Yeah.
Do something.
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