Tikib wrote:Attached is a prototype fission-fusion energy idea.
Its basically a repeating hydrogen bomb which would be surrounded by an energy recovery system (molten salt/water/etc)
You could probably generate an eroi of about 100 from it.
PEAKINT wrote:let me get something right, our sun is basically an exploding mega hydrogen bomb that has been exploding for the past 5 billion years.
it is so huge that its gravity is its own containment field
but what is to keep some nation like US/China/Russia from creating a doomsday hbomb, barred underground, with enough h stuff to blow up the entire earth?
is it a containment issue? TSAR was the biggest but it wasn't underground....
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tanada wrote:PEAKINT wrote:let me get something right, our sun is basically an exploding mega hydrogen bomb that has been exploding for the past 5 billion years.
it is so huge that its gravity is its own containment field
but what is to keep some nation like US/China/Russia from creating a doomsday hbomb, barred underground, with enough h stuff to blow up the entire earth?
is it a containment issue? TSAR was the biggest but it wasn't underground....
No desire to commit planetary suicide? Why would any sane person design and build a device intended only to be an artificial extinction level event?
PEAKINT wrote:Tanada wrote:PEAKINT wrote:let me get something right, our sun is basically an exploding mega hydrogen bomb that has been exploding for the past 5 billion years.
it is so huge that its gravity is its own containment field
but what is to keep some nation like US/China/Russia from creating a doomsday hbomb, barred underground, with enough h stuff to blow up the entire earth?
is it a containment issue? TSAR was the biggest but it wasn't underground....
No desire to commit planetary suicide? Why would any sane person design and build a device intended only to be an artificial extinction level event?
A foolproof "dead hand" device; a true MAD deterrence against any country attempting to do a first strike decapitation of any other country.
I'm not talking "skynet", but something on par with the intelligence of a smart human (IBM bluebrain project but completely) with "AI" ability to think on its own but hardcoded for one mission of "going off" if any superpower nation (G8, BRIC, etc) decides to use nukes it will set it off.... so unlike the primitive USSR 'perimeter' this would be a smart version of dead hand, and once it place it cannot be removed, it will be a permanent self contained AI automated process. Any attempts at disarming it will trigger it off.
This will absolutely deter every nation from doing so. No one would even be tempted to use nukes again.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
Tikib wrote:Attached is a prototype fission-fusion energy idea.
Its basically a repeating hydrogen bomb which would be surrounded by an energy recovery system (molten salt/water/etc)
You could probably generate an eroi of about 100 from it.
Tanada wrote:PEAKINT wrote:Tanada wrote:PEAKINT wrote:let me get something right, our sun is basically an exploding mega hydrogen bomb that has been exploding for the past 5 billion years.
it is so huge that its gravity is its own containment field
but what is to keep some nation like US/China/Russia from creating a doomsday hbomb, barred underground, with enough h stuff to blow up the entire earth?
is it a containment issue? TSAR was the biggest but it wasn't underground....
No desire to commit planetary suicide? Why would any sane person design and build a device intended only to be an artificial extinction level event?
A foolproof "dead hand" device; a true MAD deterrence against any country attempting to do a first strike decapitation of any other country.
I'm not talking "skynet", but something on par with the intelligence of a smart human (IBM bluebrain project but completely) with "AI" ability to think on its own but hardcoded for one mission of "going off" if any superpower nation (G8, BRIC, etc) decides to use nukes it will set it off.... so unlike the primitive USSR 'perimeter' this would be a smart version of dead hand, and once it place it cannot be removed, it will be a permanent self contained AI automated process. Any attempts at disarming it will trigger it off.
This will absolutely deter every nation from doing so. No one would even be tempted to use nukes again.
That is foolishly optimistic. For one thing a total flat out nuclear exchange back around 1988 when the number of weapons peaked would still leave half the world undamaged and able to recover. There are many fewer weapons now so things are 'safer' from a survival point of view.
On the second hand after a decade or so there would be people talking conspiracy theories that the 'dead hand' was just a bluff, not real, nobody would build and maintain such a thing etc etc etc. Eventually the majority would believe it was an urban myth even if it was completely legit.
On the gripping hand, stuff happens you can't predict. What if a doomsday cult or rouge country got a hold of a weapon and set it off to destroy all life on Earth? Or what if say Iran attacks Saudi Arabia and they figure if they are going down they are taking Iran with them with a nuke?
Quinny wrote:Nothing like a bit of advanced science /engineering to save the world! ...... and this is nothing like a bit of advanced science /engineering!
It's hard to keep track of all these symbols:PEAKINT wrote:This is your design? Looks like a snowman layed sideways.
Keith_McClary wrote:It's hard to keep track of all these symbols:PEAKINT wrote:This is your design? Looks like a snowman layed sideways.
But seriously, there are all these great technologies: thorium, E-Cats, ocean convection, geothermal, algae, ... that will save us if only Bill Gates, the Gubmint, Elon Musk, ... will finance a multi-$billion "Manhattan Project".
Tikib wrote:Quinny wrote:Nothing like a bit of advanced science /engineering to save the world! ...... and this is nothing like a bit of advanced science /engineering!
Just to clarify this. The design its not really mine. I am sure LLNL have had designs like this on the drawing board for the last 10-20 years.
The genius is in its simplicity. You design something incredibly complicated like a Tokamak and it will be incredibly costly to run.
You design something simple but effective like this and it will give you a huge energy payback just like hydrogen bombs do.
Fusion researchers tried to make the perfect fusion system, when they should have based there system off of a design that achieved gain 50 years ago. Ivy Mike.
Tikib wrote:Also you wouldn't need a 'manhatten project' for either an MSR or a fission-fusion reactor.
There are workable designs for both already out there. They just need investment.
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