I was more understanding about Georgia.
No you are dead wrong about Georgia.
couldn't the Russians AT LEAST have done a REAL REFERENDUM allowing for a genuine "no" vote?
That's just your interpretation of it, the no vote is a vote for independence. The people of Crimea don't want to be part of Ukraine, especially now that its parliament is full of neo Nazis who hate Russians, something the EU was opposed to, but 'you know fuck the EU.' Now if the Crimeans vote no, or whatever you call it, I think Russia will accept it, not long to wait either way.
It's actually important that we DO hold up our side of agreements in exchange for nations giving up nukes. If we don't, then nobody would trust us anymore.
If you like your agreement, you can keep your agreement. BTW there is nothing in the agreement that is a mandate for war. It's pretty vague TBH.
If we don't follow through on these agreements, then nations will just want nukes even more and never give them up.
If there is one nation that should give up it's nukes, it's the one that has used them to bomb civilian populations. Most nations that don't have nukes, want them to protect themselves from said city nuking, pathological warmongering and hypocritical nation.
But that's a return to crass 19th century imperialism, a total breakdown of international law, and it isn't right.
Right, so all those bases, all over the world are not at all influenced by that, and don't get special deals because of that? Are you serious? It's easier for an Iraqi to immigrate to the US then it is for a New Zealander. Want to know why? Look it up. As for 19th century, it's like the invasion of Iraq didn't happen in your alternate reality, or numerable other invasions by the US, where suddenly these massive bases turn up, and continue to be fully manned and operational, decades after peace. Or do you accept they did happen, but it's ok because it was your team doing it and it's only wrong when the other team does it?
Germans and Brits pay their gas bill. Yet the threat was put out there, that it could get shut off over all this.
Gas should NEVER get shut off over politics. Should be private companies in business to just develop and sell the darn gas and that's it -- no political bullying.
Right, and yet the pipeline runs through Ukraine, and there is no way to send gas through that pipeline (the nord stream pipeline still carries gas to Europe) to Europe while withholding it from Ukraine. No political bullying you say, how about those sanctions on Iran, is that not political bullying? Oh right that's your team so it's different. As to gas being in private companies, well you can buy Gazprom stocks if you want, not sure what you mean by that. Not even sure why it matters. Private companies have the mandate to act like a sociopath, is that what you mean?
If you want the truth to stand clear before you, never be for or against. The struggle between "for" and "against" is the mind's worst disease. -Sen-ts'an
