papa moose wrote:Crazy_Dad wrote:We need some Egypt style riots. It is just a matter of time. I can't be the only one.
What are we rioting to get? The Egyptians rioted in the hope of getting "free and fair" democratic representation.
We already have "free and fair" democratic representation, personally i agree with you that it blows, but what is it that you are forwarding as an alternative?
I'm willing to bet if you park in any Perth intersection and offer to hold hands and sing koombyah you won't get beaten by the cops or media, you'll get run over by a semi long before the cops arrive.
Don't mean to be down on you, you sound depressed enough, good luck.
papa moose wrote:Yeah mate, but i didn't ask you what is wrong with Oz, i asked what are you planning to replace it with.
You say we don't have a democracy, which is true to a strict definition, we have "representitive democracy", which sucks and tends to "represent" proportional to the amount of money you donate to political parties. So again, i'm not arguing with you, your preaching to the choir.
I get that your angry and pissed off but what do you hope to achieve by burning down the old? What is your vision for the new?
True democracy like the Athenian's, one man one vote on every issue? Who do you trust to do the counting? AEC?
Give us your manifesto, your vision, where are you heading, tell me and maybe i'll join you on the barricade.
Crazy_Dad wrote:Hawkcreek wrote:Come to America and I will let you and your family live in a cabin on my property in exchange for labor in the garden. But only if you have an cool Aussie accent and know how to brew good beer.
Thanks for the offer I have the accent, but I doubt I can swim that far. I used to brew beer, will be starting it again soon.
gandolf wrote:Hey CD I am very surprised that anyone living in Australia (Particularly WA) is strugling. By the time you take all the government hand outs (Family Tax A and Family Tax B) add that to any form of income then it should add up to a reasonable amount.
I agree that House prices and rents are very high in WA but there are also some bargains out there if you have a look. (Balga, Armadale, Kelscott etc)
Here are a couple of pointers that may help
1. Keystart, This is a government owned lending facility that will lend up to 98% of the purchase price of a home to a maximum of $400,000. by the time you add on the first home owners grant (7,000 I think) you can get into a home with practically no savings. The mortgage payments will probably be less than your rent.
2. Health Insurance. Given the good state of public health in WA (yes it is good compared to anywhere else I have seen) you do not need more than general cover. Dont worry about hospital cover at this stage.
3. There are places screaming out for unskilled mine workers. I know cause I work for one that employs 13,000 in Australia alone and we simply cant get enough people (Cooks, Kitchen Hands, Bar staff, Security etc). If you are clean (No drugs or alchohol) and are willing to work away on shifts then you should be able to get a job. I had a friend who is a qualified tradsman who was earning $120,000 sweeping the floors at one mine site.
Dont get down CD just get out and make it work for you.
SeaGypsy wrote:
I would look at old yachts. It is possible to score some very cheap liveaboard sized yachts in Australia, Perth though is probably the worst city to buy one; by virtue of it's extreme isolation. Are there still houseboats in the Swan River? Look at a book "Handmade Houseboats" lots of cheap ways to build floating accomodation.
I would look at old motorhomes, caravans, trayback trucks capable of being built into a motorhome.
It aint glamorous when parked in suburbia, but the independence is really nice and put together with WWOOFing can make the basis of a nice lifestyle with a lot of flexibility. You could also use this to get down south more and get to know the kind of people you are much more likely to be able to cooperate with than in the city.
I would look at industrial leases. Sometimes these have very liveable built in suites and a lot of useable and relettable space. Last year in Darwin I stayed at a place where the landlord has 2 large sheds, a caretaker's residence and office block with a nice big yard and amenities block. He was pulling $1k a week from the 2 business leases, $600 a week for the office full of bunks for backpackers, $300 a week for the caretaker's house and another $400 for people camping in tents! His cost was $700 a week.
I would look at leasing the biggest house I could in Fremantle. I would put 4 bunks in every room and rent them for $120 a week each. I would live in the shed out the back in the motorhome I am fixing up.
(BTW Never let anyone convince you to buy a bus. They are too heavy, over engineered and everything on them costs a fortune. 4.5 tonne long wheelbase trucks are the go.)
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