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Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby Graeme » Thu 27 Jan 2011, 17:04:51

Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Simple changes like installing better building insulation could cut the world's energy demands by three-quarters, according to a new study.

Discussions about reducing greenhouse gas emissions usually concentrate on cleaner ways of generating energy: that's because they promise that we can lower emissions without having to change our energy-hungry ways. But whereas new generation techniques take years to come on stream, efficiency can be improved today, with existing technologies and know-how.

To calculate how much energy could be saved through such improvements, Julian Allwood and colleagues at the University of Cambridge analysed the buildings, vehicles and industry around us and applied "best practice" efficiency changes to them.

Changes to homes and buildings included triple-glazing windows and installing 300-millimetre-thick cavity wall insulation, using saucepan lids when cooking on the stove top, eliminating hot-water tanks and reducing the set temperature of washing machines and dishwashers. In transportation, the weight of cars was limited to 300 kilograms.

They found that 73 per cent of global energy use could be saved by introducing such changes.


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Re: Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby Ferretlover » Thu 27 Jan 2011, 19:44:34

But, how do we get people to put such ideas into practice?

Maybe if it were mandatory that a person spend one year in a third world country, then let them come back to their previous lives?
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Unread postby Arthur75 » Thu 27 Jan 2011, 19:57:35

Ferretlover wrote:But, how do we get people to put such ideas into practice?



You put really sizeable directly redistributed taxes "à la Hansen" on fossile fuel, and starting with gas in the US, that's really the only and best way to favor efficiency CAPEX spending in order to decrease OPEX fuels throughout the infrastructure, and to influence choice in product buying.

Especially valid in the US considering the starting point, and potential gains. Clearly considering US starting point and energy figures, it's much easier to produce negawatt/h than to add "clean" KW/h to replace/complement existing ones

Obama discourse should have been on that, plus it's clear it would create more jobs than windmills subsadized by feed in tarrif

And this has to be done with a major shift in communication between AGW towards PO

And I am not an AGW denier at all

But it is now totally obvious that if let's imagine the CO2 aspect were not there, we would have managed PO much better !! (and even for the CO2 apsects added afterwards of course)
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Unread postby Graeme » Thu 27 Jan 2011, 20:41:35

Ferretlover wrote:But, how do we get people to put such ideas into practice?

Maybe if it were mandatory that a person spend one year in a third world country, then let them come back to their previous lives?


I can think of a few ideas: government policy, legislation, voluntary private and business practise. And Arthur's suggestion - instead of subsidizing ff industry, use that money to subsidize increasing energy efficiency.
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Unread postby Graeme » Thu 27 Jan 2011, 21:01:41

PStarr, Do I detect the faintest hint of optimism? Image

Mods, Could this thread be moved to the Conservation and Efficiency Forum?
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Unread postby Arthur75 » Fri 28 Jan 2011, 03:54:07

For the US a 20 or 30% gain in the cars fleet efficiency is quite easy (but of course takes times, at "equivalent" functionalities and even miles traveled, but only a tax, partly "à la Hansen" can bring that
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Unread postby Xenophobe » Fri 28 Jan 2011, 08:41:14

Graeme wrote:Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Simple changes like installing better building insulation could cut the world's energy demands by three-quarters, according to a new study.



I'm surprised that it requires a study to point this out. A change in building codes is yet another peak oil solution which doesn't seem to get much attention among those claiming to be looking for one.
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Unread postby MichaelWallace » Fri 28 Jan 2011, 10:09:15

Xenophobe wrote:I'm surprised that it requires a study to point this out. A change in building codes is yet another peak oil solution which doesn't seem to get much attention among those claiming to be looking for one.


How fast does housing inventory turn over, every 100+ years? Sure, we should mandate higher efficiency in new buildings, but a massive retrofit is also needed and much more difficult to accomplish.
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Re: Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby Outcast_Searcher » Fri 28 Jan 2011, 13:52:00

Yeah. Theoretically. :roll:

And the GOP could quit being science deniers and pushing their religious and family values based agendas.

And the left could quit constantly fighting for massive wealth redistribution as the number one solution to all problems.

And people could quit looking out for their own selfish interests to the point of lying and distorting data to help their agenda.

People could refuse to buy stupid things that let them "compete" on the social heirarchy, while destroying their wallet and the planet.

As long as people are primarily made of meat, I don't see much of this as likely...
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Re: Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby mos6507 » Fri 28 Jan 2011, 17:49:26

MichaelWallace wrote:How fast does housing inventory turn over, every 100+ years? Sure, we should mandate higher efficiency in new buildings, but a massive retrofit is also needed and much more difficult to accomplish.


The way the current crop of plywood McMansions are being built, I'd say a lot less than 100 years, at least on new builds.
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Unread postby Windmills » Fri 28 Jan 2011, 19:04:00

Conservation and efficiency are just technical means of postponing a social problem. Without creating an overall steady-state global system, we just kick the can down the road a little farther. Perpetually increasing population coupled with a desire for infinite economic growth and increases in standards of living will always undo any efficiency and conservation gains.

Not that I would mind if everyone granted a reprieve to my son's future and made it someone else's problem down the road through efficiency and conservation. However, I don't imagine we'll be able to keep dodging bullets for too many more decades.
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Re: Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby Arthur75 » Sat 29 Jan 2011, 04:03:16

Windmills wrote:Conservation and efficiency are just technical means of postponing a social problem. Without creating an overall steady-state global system, we just kick the can down the road a little farther. Perpetually increasing population coupled with a desire for infinite economic growth and increases in standards of living will always undo any efficiency and conservation gains.


Fossile fuel taxes are agnostic to solutions, be they efficiency gains or renewable production, that's why if the US cared just a little bit about its own future, it would start putting something like a 2$ tax a gallon on gas.

But these retarded airheads won't do anything, quite clear now, as they are fully commited towards total economic suicide
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Re: Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby kiwichick » Sat 29 Jan 2011, 07:20:28

+1 windmills

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"savings are easily and completly wiped out by the added resources that are consumed as a consequence of modest increases in population"

we are already overpopulated by at least 2 billion people

and we are adding 200,000 more humans to the planet each day

game over
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Unread postby Xenophobe » Sat 29 Jan 2011, 10:27:15

kiwichick wrote:we are already overpopulated by at least 2 billion people

and we are adding 200,000 more humans to the planet each day

game over


Malthus claimed the same thing. So why are YOU here?
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Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

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Moved thread upon request.
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Re: Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby dolanbaker » Sun 30 Jan 2011, 09:39:40

In parts of Europe and most of the US, the simplest longterm solution would be to reconstruct mixed communities, by that I mean build housing, commercial (shops etc) & industry in clusters where all can be reached by foot within 30 minutes.

All of the new buildings will need to be built to the best efficiency standards and also not be life limited like many current buildings are. That is why many victorian buildings are still standing whereas many of those constructed in the 1960-70s have already been replaced.

With the short life expectancy of many current buildings, this could be achieved in many places within 30 years. Properly designed, and most people will simply have no need for a car at all, It will also be easy to provide an efficient public transport system between these clusters (small towns).
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Re: Efficiency could cut world energy use over 70 per cent

Unread postby Arthur75 » Mon 31 Jan 2011, 05:25:48

STOP THINKING FULL TARGET SOLUTION

Initiate the economics PUSH to any solution if you want anybody to take you seriously, full stop

That is target a $2 tax on gas within 2 years to start with, AT LEAST

Otherwise the US will just become more and more the laughing stock of the world, which is already basically is

Powerful Army ? yes I know ... and people are getting a bit tired of it, to say the truth ...
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