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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby John_A » Fri 29 Jul 2011, 08:16:14

Shaved Monkey wrote:http://www.themorningbulletin.com.au/story/2011/07/28/fuel-on-thieves-hit-lists/


11.40am: JERRY cans and fuel from machinery is mysteriously disappearing in Emu Park.

Emu Park police have received a number of reports of fuel being siphoned and are warning residents to be vigilant about jerry cans left in trailers.

They say machinery on job sites and work places have been targeted.

Anyone with information is to call Emu Park police on 4938 7044.

someone better ring them and tell them its Peak Oil :-D


We've been past peak oil for years now. If you still have to tell them at this point, it is hopeless.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby kiwichick » Sun 31 Jul 2011, 20:45:25

john

it still looks like we are at the peak at the moment

either way the future looks messy
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Tue 06 Sep 2011, 17:42:47

Spending survey shows we are better off than we think

YOU would not believe it if you listened to our politicians, but household fuel and power bills eat up no more of our wallets than they did six years ago. And petrol eats up less.

The only comprehensive survey of household spending - conducted once every six years by the Bureau of Statistics - finds domestic fuel and power accounted for 2.6 per cent of household spending in 2009-10, 2.6 per cent in 2003-04 and 2.6 per cent two decades earlier in 1988-89.

Petrol, another impost about which we often complain, costs us relatively less, accounting for 3.09 per cent of spending, down from 3.36 per cent.

Household income has climbed 50 per cent since 2003-04, way ahead of prices which have climbed 19 per cent.

We have not spent all the extra income, we have tucked some away. Spending grew 38 per cent.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/spend ... z1XD8deI9j

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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Mon 27 Feb 2012, 19:26:50

This was in Murdoch's rag this morning
No mention of the "P" word
Just laying blame on current events and suggesting an improvement in the US economy created a little more demand.
Uncle Rupert making sure we dont scare the sheeple with the long term scenario.
Petrol to surge, threaten the economy
OIL prices have soared to their highest levels in three years, heaping pressure on petrol prices and casting a fresh pall over the economy.

Economists believe bowser prices will climb back towards the all-time high of $1.67 over the coming months, undermining prospects for a recovery in business and consumer sentiment.

The price surge is likely to have a similar impact on household finances to an increase in the official interest rate, analysts say, and threatens to weigh on economic growth.
Crude oil prices yesterday soared to their highest levels since July 2008, as tensions between Iran and Western economies simmered.

The price of Tapis crude oil in Singapore yesterday hit $US134 a barrel - its highest level since July 2008 - suggesting motorists in Melbourne will be paying at least $1.55 a litre within two weeks.

Tapis is the benchmark price for crude in the Asia Pacific region and determines Australian petrol prices.

Across Australian cities, the average unleaded petrol price peaked at $1.67 in July 2008, and the highest average monthly price - also that month - was $1.61.

In Melbourne, some retailers sold petrol above $1.70 a litre at the time.

AMP chief economist Shane Oliver said the outlook for prices would be worse if the Australian dollar was not so strong

The dollar's sustained period above parity with the greenback - where it has traded almost consistently since last October - was mitigating the potential bowser pain, Dr Oliver said.

He expected the growing tension surrounding Iran's nuclear-building program would drive the Tapis price back towards its all-time high of $US153 a barrel within months.

"This is another blow for retailers with the latest rise acting as another drag on consumer spending and economic growth," Dr Oliver said.

"But households are just going to have to get used to high oil prices and petrol prices over the months ahead."

The key driving factor in Tapis oil's 30 per cent price rise in the past year has been a surge in demand from the emerging economies of China, Russia, India and Brazil.

Demand for oil has also been boosted by improving conditions in the US economy.

The spike in energy prices looms as another threat to the slow global economic recovery, economists say.

Wall Street investment bank Merrill Lynch has warned that West Texas oil prices could climb to $US200 - the equivalent of $US220 a barrel for Tapis - over the next five years.

Merrill Lynch chief economist Saul Eslake said rising petrol prices would become a key factor for the Reserve Bank in the months ahead as the board weighed up the impact on inflation against the effect on spending.




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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Wed 29 Feb 2012, 05:45:57

Basically Peak Oil is dead Tar sands will save us :-D

http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/02/29/koh ... -peak-oil/

Wednesday, 29 February 2012 / 56 comments
Kohler: the death of peak oil
by Alan Kohler

Here’s another structural transformation to add to all the others that you have to get your head around: it’s the transformation of global energy markets as a result of shale oil and gas.

We’ve already got the digital revolution and the switch from consumption to savings after the GFC, not to mention the rise of China and India. Now we have the death of peak oil.

For years we have assumed that fossil fuel reserves were running out, that peak oil production had occurred some time ago and that it was only a matter of time before the oil price rose to such heights that energy-dependent economies would be crushed, starting with the United States.

In a way these assumptions have helped underpin the movement against global warming (that is, we’ll have to give up oil anyway since it’s running out, so we might as well make the best of a bad lot and embrace electric cars and wind farms and save the planet from climate change while we’re at it).

In fact the existence of vast reserves of oil and gas in shale formations, mainly in the United States, combined with the return of the oil price to $US100 a barrel without, so far, causing a global recession, is producing a profound transformation of energy markets.

Forget declining oil, there is a new global oil rush. The US has an estimated 2 trillion barrels of shale oil reserves — about 70% of the world’s total and eight times the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia. The gas reserves, in the US, Australia and elsewhere, are vast.

The cost of extracting shale oil ranges from $US95 per barrel down to $US12, although the process of fracking, where water is pumped in to break up the shale and release the oil, is very controversial — as highlighted on the ABC’s Foreign Correspondent program last night.

But where there’s oil there’s a way. BHP Billiton has paid $15 billion for shale oil and gas acreage, through its acquisition of Petrohawk, and now owns four large areas in Arkansas, Louisiana and Texas. The company is spending billions developing the project; its Haynesville project in Arkansas is already the largest shale play in the US, producing 6.5 billion cubic feet of gas per day.

There was an earlier shale energy rush in the 1980s, following the second oil shock, but it quickly collapsed with the oil price.

However, now the price is back to where it was in real terms, making it economic, and extraction technology has advanced enormously as well. It wasn’t until the late 1980s and early 1990s that the first commercial horizontal wells were successfully drilled and modern ‘multi-stage’ hydraulic fracturing (fracking) techniques did not emerge until ten years ago.

Production of shale gas in the US began to increase rapidly in 2010 thanks to advances in fracking technology. It has now been used in more than 1 million wells, and operators are currently fracturing about 35,000 wells a year.

It’s a remarkable process: the reserves are usually about five kilometres below the surface (much deeper than coal seam gas); wells are drilled down to them and then horizontally through them for another five or six kilometres; the horizontal part of the well is perforated by explosives and then fluid and sand are pumped down at high pressure to fracture the shale. The hydrocarbons then flow to the surface.

The opposition to this in the US is similar to the growing opposition to coal seam gas developments in Australia; whether any of the opponents get anywhere is a different matter, especially in the US.

The drive for self-sufficiency in oil and gas is very powerful indeed, and in pursuit of that there is a massive boom in shale energy development, leading to big fortunes being made in infrastructure and servicing, not to mention the energy itself.

Australia has relatively small shale oil reserves — here it’s more about coal seam methane. China has more shale energy reserves than the US but it’s deeper and the geology is more difficult. There are big reserves in Poland and France, as well as Russia and the Congo in Africa.

But so far it’s all about the United States, which has the reserves and the largest market close by.

The importance of this for the world is hard to exaggerate. The distribution of energy on the planet is shifting: the stranglehold that Middle Eastern dictatorships have over the world’s energy supply is loosening and just as the rise of manufacturing in China shifted the world’s economic axis, so will the rise of shale energy in North America.

There will be a rapid substitution of coal by cleaner gas, especially as (or perhaps if) emissions trading schemes and carbon taxes spread.

It means renewable energy and nuclear will become less and less economic as the supply of gas increases, whether it’s from coal seams or shale. Gas is less carbon intensive than coal, but it still produces greenhouse gases, so it may be that the policy response to reduce global warming will actually have to increase if the world moves too far towards gas and away from renewables and nuclear.

If the US could become self-sufficient in energy, its current account deficit would disappear and the US dollar would start rising again.

In fact, shale energy could be responsible for the resurgence of the US as an economic superpower, with cheap local energy underpinning the second coming of its manufacturing industry as well as helping to balance its twin deficits — the current account and federal budget.

One thing is for sure: the world isn’t running out of oil and gas any more.

*This post first appeared on Business Spectator.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Wed 29 Feb 2012, 06:13:10

ABC (the Australian one) has been running a lot more stories like this:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-28/i ... n=business
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Wed 07 Mar 2012, 16:45:59

An article in Australia's ABC about a report by KPMG on hidden costs of business: (not directly related to peak oil)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-03-07/j ... vl=theDrum
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Sat 02 Jun 2012, 07:57:10

Not exactly PO but it might as well be
Permaculture in the mainstream media.
The direction of Gardening Australia all year has been totally focused on permaculture and community gardens.
Low carbon, low oil input gardening in the mass media with out scaring the sheeple FTW/
http://www.abc.net.au/gardening/video/d ... %20Special
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Keith_McClary » Sun 03 Jun 2012, 01:31:10

Shaved Monkey wrote:
Forget declining oil, there is a new global oil rush. The US has an estimated 2 trillion barrels of shale oil reserves — about 70% of the world’s total and eight times the oil reserves of Saudi Arabia. The gas reserves, in the US, Australia and elsewhere, are vast.

The cost of extracting shale oil ranges from $US95 per barrel down to $US12, although the process of fracking, where water is pumped in to break up the shale and release the oil, is very controversial — as highlighted on the ABC’s Foreign Correspondent program last night.
"Oil shale", "shale oil", what's the difference? Just a factor of 100 (USGS says 24 billion of shale oil). :lol:

Wackypedia also has the terminology totally screwed up.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Sat 08 Dec 2012, 18:30:05

Quite a good article,if you go to the link it links back to another article on the subject from the same journo.
Reports about the boom being a game-changer have proliferated since last month's prediction by the International Energy Agency that the United States will overtake Saudi Arabia and Russia to become the world's biggest oil producer in about five years' time, and be energy self-sufficient by 2030.

Oil production from shale in the US is rising much more strongly than expected because the boom itself is working to shift production into liquids. The shale contains a mix of gas and liquids including oil, and enough gas has been discovered to produce a structural downshift in the price of US domestic gas, which by law cannot be exported.

Companies that have bought into the shale boom, including Australia's BHP Billiton, have reacted to this by pulling drilling rigs out of fields that are gas-rich and relocating them in ones that are rich in liquids for which the price is roughly four times higher, pushing US shale oil and liquids production up.
It is now running at about a million barrels a day, and is predicted to reach about 3.5 million barrels a day by 2016.
That's enough to underpin a fall of about 25 per cent in oil imports that is worth $US100 billion ($A95.5 billion) a year at the current oil price.
But the bottom line for the US is bigger. Bank of America Merrill Lynch calculates there is already a combined value shift or ''energy carry'' of more than $US300 billion a year in America's favour, as the US oil import bill falls, oil exports rise, and as gas reserves have expanded to underpin cheap energy generation.
On top of this is an international cost advantage for US heavy industry, which can buy US gas currently at a price of $US3.60 per thousand cubic feet, between a third and a half of the price being paid in the rest of the developed world.
A more self-sufficient US that had lower energy input costs would meanwhile be more capable of growing its way out of its debt problem, but also perhaps more politically self-contained, even isolationist.

According to Goldman Sachs, cash returns from conventional fields have fallen by 28 per cent from a peak in 2005 despite a doubling in the oil price.

Goldman estimates conventional producers need an oil price of $US116 a barrel or more to generate free cash - cash that is left over after the company pays its bills, funds capital expenditure and declares dividends for its shareholders. The Organisation of the Petroleum Exporting Countries needs about $US90 a barrel for the same reasons.



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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Fri 14 Dec 2012, 01:10:39

This article was in the Drive section of the major newspaper
Motorists in the UK are so desperate to avoid paying for fuel, they have resorted to sleeping in their cars, a report has found.

The study, found that one in 16 (or 6 per cent) regular commuters in the UK had resorted to spending a night in their car to save money on fuel costs.

“People are also telling us that they are facing tough choices about their careers with some now weighing up whether it is actually affordable to commute to work,”

http://news.drive.com.au/drive/motor-ne ... 2bbkf.html
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby Shaved Monkey » Mon 29 Jul 2013, 03:50:55

Thursday 8.30 ABC
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 29 Jul 2013, 10:36:25

We are going there anyway, we may as well hurry it up and put the difference into sorting out some changes we are going to need when there isn't enough to go anywhere near around at any price.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby John_A » Mon 29 Jul 2013, 10:40:28

kiwichick wrote:john

it still looks like we are at the peak at the moment

either way the future looks messy


Peak in the past, peak now, peak soon, it's all good. And it isn't "either way" the future looks messy, its "the future ALWAYS looks messy".Anyone remember the Cold War? Now THAT made the future look even dicier than peak oil and current climate predictions combined because it was all idiot politico dependent, to heck with the bad temperature prediction models or poor peak prognostication.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Mon 29 Jul 2013, 10:49:24

John - It is interesting how seemingly easy it is for some to accept today as the "new normal". A messy future? Do they mean the future won't be nice and easy as it has been for the last 5 years? LOL.
I guess we'll just keep "slowly" turning up the heat on that pot of water as long as some of the frogs don't notice.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby SeaGypsy » Mon 29 Jul 2013, 11:03:32

Reminds me of Sparky's post yesterday suggesting the redefinition of 'plateau' to 'fulcrum point' and RM's acknowledgement of this as an inherently unstable point in the POD. People want to believe in stability, even when the ship is sinking. The bravado some are displaying around here about the plateau and where we go from here shows this same instinct.

It seems to be a case of many frogs, several pots at present. Some are not taking the sudden boiling too well, whilst others happily look to the sky and chirp. ELM, POD & TPTB's desperation to stay in control of which pots boil first.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby John_A » Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:26:31

ROCKMAN wrote:John - It is interesting how seemingly easy it is for some to accept today as the "new normal".


Yep. Just as much as humans resist change in general, screaming and yelling all the way, once it has been around for a few months or a year, suddenly it is the new normal, the bitching and whining dies down and life goes on.

Rockman wrote: A messy future? Do they mean the future won't be nice and easy as it has been for the last 5 years? LOL.
I guess we'll just keep "slowly" turning up the heat on that pot of water as long as some of the frogs don't notice.


A better analogy might be that the frog is evolving to survive in hotter water faster than the temperature can increase. Just another rate of change argument I guess.
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Re: Peak Oil in the Mainstream Media

Unread postby ROCKMAN » Mon 29 Jul 2013, 13:24:30

I forget which old Greek said it: Give me a long enough lever and I can tilt the planet. Of course, a no matter how long the lever it needs a fulcrum point to do its thing. Let’s skip the physical mechanics of levers and fulcrums and see how economists/market sharks view the concept. From: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fulcrumpoint.asp

“Definition of 'Fulcrum Point' - The turning point in which a security or the economy in general makes a major change in direction. A fulcrum point can be very profitable for investors who are able to identify that a sharp price move is about to take place. For example, after the U.S. equity markets plunged in late 2008, they recovered sharply in early 2009.

It is very difficult to predict or identify a fulcrum point contemporaneously, but the promise of very high returns keeps many investors looking for them. Unfortunately, these movements are so rare that few succeed in both predicting that a movement should occur and in timing the movement correctly. Often, what may seem initially to be a major sharp reversal may instead turn out to be just a minor movement before the major trend resumes.”

With that model in mind one might say we hit the PO fulcrum point in 2004. Or at least the first FP. From 2003 to 2005 oil increased almost 80% from $28/bbl to $50/bbl. But then from mid-2006 to 2008 it jumped about 50% from $62/bbl to $91/bbl. And despite a good dip in ’09 ("...may instead turn out to be just a minor movement before the major trend resumes") based on the yearly average we’ve are flat at around $86/bbl. Oil has been running up lately. Have to wait to see how that holds for the year.

But bottom line: from an investment standpoint: we’ve already passed the oil price fulcrum point between 2005 and 2008. A small fulcrum reversal in late ’08 but that didn’t last long. Thus we’ve actually been in a somewhat balanced state for the last 3 or 4 years. From an investment stand point which way would one might expect the next big tilt: up or down? We’ve seen what a significant upward movement in price did to the global economy and demand destruction. But in the US there were other contributing factors to the down turn beyond the rise in oil prices. Maybe a downward tilt if more economic woes grow in the develop economies. OTOH some economies, such as China, appear to be handling the higher oil costs well enough sustain current prices.

I think many probably felt as I did at first: we are at a fulcrum point today. But that would be true only if we are about to swing wide in one direction or the other. Looking at the last 10 years or so we have seen THE fulcrum point about 6 or 7 years ago. I don't think we're seeing another one develop yet. I suppose one could call a fulcrum point that doesn't swing in either direction a plateau. So maybe fulcrum point and plateau are polar opposites. We can all have our own opinions on which way a tilt is coming if, in fact, there will be one soon…no guarantees there. OTOH I would be more impressed with anyone’s opinion if they backed it up with a few $million bet in the long term oil futures market that mirrors their expectations. Remember that if you bet the futures high or low you lose either way if there's no movement.

Well, do you feel lucky, punk? Do you? Go ahead…make my day. LOL.
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