coyote wrote:Are you sure this isn't Aaron having a bit of fun with us again?
All of these two-post wonders are probably Aaron. I think he's testing us or something.
coyote wrote:Are you sure this isn't Aaron having a bit of fun with us again?
wahoodoggydoo wrote:You doom-and-gloomers need to get a life! Yes, peak oil will happen; there is no doubt about it. But peak oil will NOT cause a cataclysmic crash of global society. ...
PraiseDoom wrote:wahoodoggydoo wrote:You doom-and-gloomers need to get a life! Yes, peak oil will happen; there is no doubt about it. But peak oil will NOT cause a cataclysmic crash of global society. ...
Of course there is no doubt, it happened 2 years ago now ( give or take ) and the signs are all around us!!
You must not be paying attention. I am currently on my own personal quest, assessing the effects of PO from the Rocky Mts to Maine, and am stunned at what I am finding.
You should try and get out more and notice the horrendous effects on our lifestyle that PO has already caused.
Truth is, we're all just enjoying a bit of whimsy.
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wahoodoggydoo wrote:You doom-and-gloomers need to get a life! Yes, peak oil will happen; there is no doubt about it. But peak oil will NOT cause a cataclysmic crash of global society. People act like the lights will go out when the oil wells dry up. Give me a break!
We are on the cusp of a revolutionary advance, not decline. Economics will force the wasteful to conserve, albeit the wasteful will go kicking and screaming. Our powerful talents for technology and innovation will result in a renewable energy revolution and remarkable increases in energy efficiency.
The Oil Age has pushed global population beyond what can be supported without oil UNDER OUR CURRENT SYSTEM. Humans aren't going to starve by the billions when the oil runs out. Humans will change the system. Humans will adapt to change, that's what we do!
When the Oil Age ends, we don't end. And we don't go back to horse-and-buggy either. We advance into the Solar Age. Look at the innovations that have been developed in the last century. Yes, our CO2 emissions grow exponentially, but our technology grows exponentially as well. We can overcome.
And I don't want to hear about how solar can replace only a fraction of our energy use. That's true in our current system, but not for the future. Besides, most of our energy consumption today is just waste anyway.
Someday human population will exceed what the Earth can support, but it will NOT happen because of peak oil. We are nearing a societal transition, not an end to society.
You doom-and-gloomers do play a useful role however. Somebody needs to give society a good wake-up call. A good dose of fear mongering just might get the job done...
Albertabound wrote:The worlds institutions are in a state of disintegration. National Problems can no longer be solved at the National level. (Look at the Price for gasoline no one can control it not even the oil majors).
wahoodoggydoo wrote:When the Oil Age ends, we don't end. And we don't go back to horse-and-buggy either. We advance into the Solar Age. Look at the innovations that have been developed in the last century. Yes, our CO2 emissions grow exponentially, but our technology grows exponentially as well. We can overcome.
Zardoz wrote:coyote wrote:Are you sure this isn't Aaron having a bit of fun with us again?
All of these two-post wonders are probably Aaron. I think he's testing us or something.
Battle_Scarred_Galactico wrote:Chris, I'm afraid it seems impossible for these fools to think more than one link in a chain, food comes from the supermarket.
Geko45 wrote: The real problem is that they think food just grows out of the Earth without any significant inputs to the process. That whole "living off the fat of the land" myth.
smallpoxgirl wrote:It does. Just not in the amounts we are currently producing. Cut the population back by 100 fold and there will be plenty of food growing out of the earth on it's own. We've just put ourselves in a place very far removed from steady state.
azreal60 wrote:I see our friendly snowshoe gal is a web investigator. We should get her a job with the local gumshoe office.( not an insult, found the links interesting)
One of my friend's pulls crap like that all the time and scares the bejezus out of me with what she can find.
EndOfGrowth wrote:Why is it that the thrust of members responses to questions asked by newbies is "we're screwed", "die-off", "crash", "zombies", "no hope" etc?
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