Keith_McClary wrote:Don't these people at least have full citizenship rights?Plantagenet wrote:You think there are no independence struggles going in western countries other than Israel? Think again......
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You haven't answered my question. Do you claim, along with Yellowcanoe, that there are no independence struggles going in western Countries? And yes, these independence struggles go on even where local peoples are granted "full citizenship." ---
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Yellowcanoe seems to think its OK for non-western people to invade and oppress other peoples, and you and yellow canoe both seem to believe that its OK for Spain to occupy Catalonia, for instance, or the UK to occupy Ireland, or Turkey to occupy Kurdistan, or the US to occupy "Indian country" or the US to occupy Puerto Rico as long as the local people are granted "full citizenship."
Well---it turns out not everyone wants to be a citizen of Spain or the UK or the USA or turkey. Most countries have occupied parts of other people's land. And full citizenship doesn't help----Many Irish people in northern Ireland want to part of the Republic of Ireland, and many Catalonian people want to live in an independent Catalonia, many Kurds want to be independent from Turkey and many Puerto Ricans want independence from the USA for their island country. And yes, the exact same thing is true in israel--- many Palestinian people in Israel who have "full citizenship" still want to live in an independent Palestine.
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The IRA doesn't want "full citizenship rights" in the UK. "Full citizenship rights" falls well short of their goals.