DesuMaiden wrote:Nobody has been able to prove why this die off will not happen. I'm 100% certain this die off will happen. And just turned 25 today. It is entirely possible I will not live past my 40th birthday unless I can take drastic actions to prepare for peak oil.
Alfred Tennyson wrote:We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are;
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.
DesuMaiden wrote:Nobody has been able to prove why this die off will not happen. I'm 100% certain this die off will happen. And just turned 25 today. It is entirely possible I will not live past my 40th birthday unless I can take drastic actions to prepare for peak oil.
DesuMaiden wrote:Nobody has been able to prove why this die off will not happen. I'm 100% certain this die off will happen. And just turned 25 today. It is entirely possible I will not live past my 40th birthday unless I can take drastic actions to prepare for peak oil.
Observerbrb wrote:I remember reading about this PO stuff for first time more than 10 years ago. In 2004, Oil doomers were predicating imminent and massive collapse. You could have done what some of them did: Worrying about an imminent collapse for more than 10 years, while the rest of people just were doing fine and enjoying their lives. In that case, you would have lived 10 years of misery, whereas the others would have lived 10 years of LIFE.
Tanada wrote:DesuMaiden wrote:Nobody has been able to prove why this die off will not happen. I'm 100% certain this die off will happen. And just turned 25 today. It is entirely possible I will not live past my 40th birthday unless I can take drastic actions to prepare for peak oil.
Happy Birthday! At your age in your country my advice would be pretty simple. Move north to a low population town far from a large population city. You don't need to go out into the Tundra but there are lots of small towns in low population area's that will do much better in your die-off scenario than anything in a large population area.
pstarr wrote:Seems sage, the more I know about Canada and especially the Maritime Provinces. The weather is rather benign but unpleasant. Seems to be a lot of cold, rain, fog, and wind.Tanada wrote:DesuMaiden wrote:Nobody has been able to prove why this die off will not happen. I'm 100% certain this die off will happen. And just turned 25 today. It is entirely possible I will not live past my 40th birthday unless I can take drastic actions to prepare for peak oil.
Happy Birthday! At your age in your country my advice would be pretty simple. Move north to a low population town far from a large population city. You don't need to go out into the Tundra but there are lots of small towns in low population area's that will do much better in your die-off scenario than anything in a large population area.Freezing rain is common in Newfoundland where it is known as "silver thaw".[34] Freezing drizzle or freezing rain occurs on average of 150 hours each winter, most commonly in March. One such storm struck St. John's on April 11, 1984 and lasted three days. Ice almost 15 centimeters (5.9 in) thick disrupted electrical power to 200,000 people on the Avalon Peninsula for days.[34]
KaiserJeep wrote:Just how soon the collapse happens is the basic question. Most guesses seem to be in the 2020-2030 range.
But economic recession is destroying demand for fuel and energy prices for both vehicle fuel and space heating are still dropping, postponing and prolonging the collapse. Once we enter a full-grown depression, we may have fuel for a few decades more, simply because of demand destruction.
Timo wrote:Sorry to be the lone bright spot in my optimism here, but alternatives to fossile fuels are being developed right now. As FFs decline in abundance, sure that will have an affect on industrial civilization, but as that happens, alternatives will fill the gap to maintain some resemblance of the status quo. Sure, things will be different, and it may not be as prosporous as what we have now, but that does not mean that civilization will collapse. Parts of civilization? Maybe. Totally? I don't see it. Technologies are being developed at a faster pace right now than at any other point in time in human history. If there is a void in the means of production, our capitalistic system will fill that void to maintain production of products that civilization depends on to continue. Color me simple, but as bad as things look from the bottom of the hole, our hole doesn't necessarily need to get that much deeper. In fact, i'm much more worried about AGW being the cause of the fall of civilization than the depletion of fossil fuels. Actually, the depletion of fossil fuels would probably forestall AGW to no small degree, and enhance the future of civilization, altogether. Worst case scenario would be that Elon Musk takes us all to Mars in an electric hyperloop.
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