pstarr wrote:head wounds are notorious for copious bleeding from minor scrapes, i.e. nose bleeds.
You're right about that ^^. It's an old professional wrestler trick, they hide small razors and while down cut their forehead a bit and then blood dramatically pours down all over their face much worse looking than what's in the above photo -- and yet it's just a simple cut, scalp cuts bleed profusely. These kind of cuts look horrible but they're really nothing.
could have resulted from Zimmerman scratching his head, asking hisself 'wtf do I do now?
Now there you go too far ^^. Nope, you aren't going to cut your scalp like that by "scratching your head" -- it takes a sharp object, or most likely what happened here is yes there was a fight and clearly Zimmerman's head made some contact with the ground, enough to lacerate the skin.
So.. yep it's just a cut.. but something made that cut, you know? He says he was getting pounded on the concrete, cuts to the back of his head back that up. But then again we don't know if Zimmerman really started the fight. This is like any common bar fight, it's not easy to sort out who is really at fault.
*bottom line here is guys, there's a difference between "self defense" from unprovoked attack versus doing a lot of stupid things that wind up getting you in a fistfight.* This could have happened in a bar. What if Zimmerman followed some redneck around in a bar because he looked suspicious, well if you can't / won't identify yourself as a bouncer or law enforcement then no duh yes a redneck may turn right around and kick your ass.
There's an essential fact here that far as we know, Trayvon was in the stand your ground position all we know is he was in fear for HIS life being followed by some strange guy who would not identify himself and wouldn't leave him alone. But Trayvon never used lethal force -- Zimmerman did.Let me tell you the real probable truth on all this..
It's the NRA gun culture that's the problem, a too quick to shoot mindset. Doing stupid things and instigating fights, all the while knowing they've got that concealed weapon and they're ready to use it to "stand their ground." That 911 tape, the gunshot comes very fast. I still wonder about those screams -- it always sounded like a kid to me, and sure enough scientific software analysis hired by the Orlando Sentinel confirmed that. Listen to how quickly in the fight that gunshot goes off. None of us know for sure,
but it really seems to me Zimmerman had that gun right there and he was gungho NRA type so here he was in a little fight and he went right for the gun -- this isn't cool guys, NOT EVEN POLICE DO THIS, using that weapon is a LAST resort.
And ultimately it's not like Zimmerman was randomly attacked, this is a fight he went looking for -- he WOULD NOT identify himself as neighborhood watch, gave Trayvon no reason why he was following him like that, for whatever reason Zimmerman did nothing common sense that could have diffused a fistfight situation -- and then voila, he's in a fight, now he gets to use his gun.
It's a confluence of bad stuff here -- first of all, his weapon is concealed and the general public has no idea of this potential threat, secondly he's running around like a cop calling himself neighborhood watch captain to everyone BUT THE PERSON HE'S FOLLOWING even after directly asked. This is WHY our police officers wear uniforms, this is WHY they identify who they are. My common sense tells me if only Zimmerman had said he was neighborhood watch, then Trayvon would have had some logical reason why the guy was following him, Trayvon wouldn't have been in fear (wouldn't anyone you be scared getting followed on the street like that?), if only Zimmerman had said who he was and why he was following him there never would have been a fight.
(p.s. the rules of the national neighborhood watch association state they're never supposed to follow in the first place, and most certainly they're not supposed to be armed, and obviously NO private citizen should be running around in public acting like a cop -- we have cops already, they wear uniforms, they are trained, they don't go shooting willy nilly)
