[vtsnowedin]

Does it really matter which egomanic old fart is President?

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Going by the differences in the economy between one old fart and the present one it really does.
It would be nice to have the parties all jump down to candidates in their fifties, left center and right so we might have a chance of them truly being competent during a crisis.

[C8]

Does it really matter which egomanic old fart is President?

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Going by the differences in the economy between one old fart and the present one it really does.
It would be nice to have the parties all jump down to candidates in their fifties, left center and right so we might have a chance of them truly being competent during a crisis.

Both parties massively overspend and put the rich ahead of everyone else. Democracy is a system of govt. where the wealthy have all the power. In a dictatorship, it is possible that the dictator can take on the rich- but this is not an option in a democracy where money controls elections.

I am not advocating dictatorship- simply uncovering that democracy is really just a more pleasing name for oligarchy. The US is ruled by oligarchs and corporations- not by the people. We engage in a massive game of pretend b/c a deep realization of this fact by the masses would lead to revolution or collapse from disengagement by the public.

Once the Republicans are eliminated as a national party (which will happen in a decade) then the real battle will begin between corporate Democrats and socialist Democrats. The Socialists will not be dispensed with as easily as the Republicans were, as they organize well and punch above their weight in primary elections when most people don't vote. Plus they have real inroads into academia, the media and unions.

A very viscous battle is coming.

[vtsnowedin]

The rich do not simply buy elections. They must use their money to persuade a majority of the middle and poorer classes to actually vote for their candidate. Easy enough to do in good times when people are employed at reasonable wages and feel that they are getting ahead.
But let times get hard enough that people become convinced the government is doing a poor job of it and the voters will become cynical and take every political add with several grains of salt.
There probably will be a revolution in the USAs future but it will be fought over the media and at the ballot box.
So yes the rich have power and influence and will tend to stay in power and create and accumulate more riches but they must use that power carefully to not have it taken away from them by the voters.

[Newfie]

C8,

Maybe. But there is also a strong possibility the Right will find new allies in the center city ghettos and Latin wards. I was just reading that Mexican immigrants are among the most anti-immigrant groups. And the Baptist church is strong in the inner city. We read about the gang bangers, but there are also lots of decent folks there. The R’s just need a candidate who can resonate with them.

[vtsnowedin]

C8,

Maybe. But there is also a strong possibility the Right will find new allies in the center city ghettos and Latin wards. I was just reading that Mexican immigrants are among the most anti-immigrant groups. And the Baptist church is strong in the inner city. We read about the gang bangers, but there are also lots of decent folks there. The R’s just need a candidate who can resonate with them.

I think the election of Texas Congresswoman Mayra Flores is a perfect example of that possibility. If the Republicans can distance themselves from Trump and concentrate on crime,inflation,education, and energy policy I think they can move ahead and gain support from working people.

[C8]

I believe that a Mexican/Black rescue of the R's is something of an illusion the right comforts itself with. I have watched Mexican politics for some time- the way Mexicans protest bad conditions is by going on a vote strike (not voting). This is due to the insurmountable odds of winning against the machine in Mexico. Unfortunately, this cultural response dies hard and has traveled with them- Mexicans just don't show up at the polls.

Unlike the Dems, the R's have a horrible get out the vote machine. Most R's spit on the ground when they see a Mexican immigrant and don't do any outreach. Dems are buying up the Latino radio stations and extending their air superiority in Florida and Texas. R's never seem to understand the importance of this- there is a reason they are nicknamed the "stupid party".

Its chess vs. checkers- R's are simply being outsmarted and out hustled at every turn. There is something about the conservative mind that is so independent and self reliant that it can't grasp the importance of organizing. Politics is a team sport- loners get run over. The symbol of R's shouldn't be the elephant, but the mammoth.

[vtsnowedin]

Is it possible that Mexicans that have migrated to the US under severe conditions might want to do it a different way then they were forced to do in Mexico?

[jedrider]

Its chess vs. checkers- R's are simply being outsmarted and out hustled at every turn.

Except how the R's so masterfully commandeered the Bible vote. D's did ignore them, however, which did allow the Republicans to step right in.

[theluckycountry]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/ ... 2686966805

How dare they try and jail a black man for violent crimes.

[theluckycountry]

Migrants Gone Wild On Streets Of Midtown Manhattan

A pack of illegal aliens viciously fought each other with sticks, belts, and whatever they could get their hands on outside a migrant hotel in Midtown Manhattan. The Row is one of many hotels and shelters converted to house illegal aliens in NYC from the open southern border. About 200,000 migrants have flooded the city since early 2022. There are as many as 64,000 in these shelters.

"Must be such joy to live in that NYC cesspool. Between the crime; looting, murders, sucker punching - and now the feral illegal aliens…..just lovely," one X user said, referring to the video.

https://twitter.com/CANELATRD/status/17 ... 8115550601