[deMolay]

Civil Unrest seems to be a long standing feature of life under Communism in China. This article from 2004 claims 58,000 cases of civil strife in one year. This before the Financial Crisis. No wonder the Communist Boss Hu left the G8 to get a handle on the strife. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... 4Nov3.html

[deMolay]

Violent protests and clashes increasing and social unrest spreading with Economic crisis in China. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008 ... test_N.htm

[eastbay]

From our 'overshoot' perspective it's interesting to note the Uighurs are allowed an exception to Chinas one child policy. They can crank out as many children as they like without penalty or social isolation.

They receive affirmative action benefits in job placement and in school admissions. Yet they still whine and moan crying for more and more plus international sympathy. And the media complies.

Sound familiar???

[deMolay]

China is Doomed. China is a powder keg. 25% of the world's mouths. %6 of the worlds fresh water. %7 of the world's arable land. Tremendous amound of civil unrest. 58,000 clashes with authorities in 2004, before the Financial Crisis hit. They have some 6 ongoing Separatist Conflicts on the go as well. This from Wiki. [edit] People's Republic of China

[edit] Secessionist movements
Hong Kong
Pressure groups: Hong Konger Front; it is unclear whether this actually exists as an organisation.
Proposed state: Republic of Hong Kong[25]
Inner Mongolia (member of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization)
Political parties: Inner Mongolian People's Party, Southern Mongolian Democratic Alliance[26]
Tibet (member of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization)
the 14th Dalai Lama, head of the Government-in-exile: Tibetan Government in Exile[27]
Political party: International Tibet Independence Movement, National Democratic Party of Tibet, United Liberation Front of Tibet[28]
Pressure groups: Students for a Free Tibet
See also: 2008 unrest in Tibet
East Turkestan / Uyghuristan / Xinjiang (member of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization)
Rebel organization: East Turkestan Islamic Movement
Political party: East Turkestan Government in Exile
Proposed state: Eastern Turkestan Republic[29]
Pressure groups: World Uyghur Congress
Manchuria
Proposed state: Manchukuo
Government-in-exile: Manchukuo Temporary Government

[edit] Autonomist movements
Macau
Political party: New Democratic Macau Association[30]

[eastbay]

At some point the Han will get fed up with it all and squish most of 'em.

But I wish they would let Tibet follow its own course.

[Leutnant]

ahh the infamous Hong Konger Front...
China got some big challenges ahead, no question about it.

[deMolay]

China major drought could reduce wheat harvest 63%, millions of people and animals without drinking water. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/fe ... wheat-crop

[Kylon]

This makes me think that we need to find alternative crops. Something that can survive well in the new environment. If we can't find them, then maybe we should make them.

Of course the genetic engineering that would be done would need to be done by government forces and without any terminator seeds, and the seeds would need to be available to everyone to start planting. Otherwise super large corporations would end up completely controlling the worlds food supply.

[deMolay]

The Great Leap Forward. http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/960314/china.shtml

[deMolay]

Previous Famines in Communist China. http://www.sacu.org/greatleapfamine.html

[deMolay]

Starvation of the Great Leap Forward. http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-6512633.html

[deMolay]

More Starvation and Crimes by Mao. http://factsanddetails.com/china.php?it ... subcatid=6

[deMolay]

I find it amazing how PUPS can whitewash history. And try to wipe out the memories of hundreds of millions of innocent citizens. Well guess what, there is no conspiracy to undermine the Communist Regimes of history. The truth will always come out. Their are so many unrelated accounts of the atrocities of Communism, that I can keep posting for years. Communism in all its forms is always lethal to its practicioners. http://www.orbit6.com/crisf/misc/gr_leap.htm

[deMolay]

There are 46800 references here at Google to the Genocide of the Chinese under Communist Chinese Rule. The Communists around the world should really start owniong up to the fact that Communism in all its forms is alway lethal for the poor citizens of any country that are forced to live under its jurisdiction. This doesn't cover the millions under Stalin and Russina Communis, or the millions under Cambodia's experiments or the millions under National Socialism in Germany. The links of murdered innocent people numbers in the hundreds of millions. They are all available nowadays on the web mostly at google. Wake The Fuck Up. http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=num ... =&aq=f&oq=

[outcast]

Whoa, link spam.

Violent protests and clashes increasing and social unrest spreading with Economic crisis in China. http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2008 ... test_N.htm

That was last year, and it turned out that wasn't going to happen.

Hong Kong
Pressure groups: Hong Konger Front; it is unclear whether this actually exists as an organisation.
Proposed state: Republic of Hong Kong[25]

Doesn't exist.

Inner Mongolia (member of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization)
Political parties: Inner Mongolian People's Party, Southern Mongolian Democratic Alliance[26]

China doesn't have other political parties.

Tibet (member of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization)
the 14th Dalai Lama, head of the Government-in-exile: Tibetan Government in Exile[27]
Political party: International Tibet Independence Movement, National Democratic Party of Tibet, United Liberation Front of Tibet[28]
Pressure groups: Students for a Free Tibet

That is true, but would it really be better if China let go of it?

East Turkestan / Uyghuristan / Xinjiang (member of the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization)
Rebel organization: East Turkestan Islamic Movement
Political party: East Turkestan Government in Exile
Proposed state: Eastern Turkestan Republic[29]
Pressure groups: World Uyghur Congress

This is also true, and that movement is also guilty of many bombings and deaths of innocent people.

Manchuria
Proposed state: Manchukuo
Government-in-exile: Manchukuo Temporary Government

It's obvious that whoever wrote that knows nothing about history. Manchukuo was a japanese puppet state setup after they conqured manchuria in the 1930's, they lost it after world war 2.

From our 'overshoot' perspective it's interesting to note the Uighurs are allowed an exception to Chinas one child policy. They can crank out as many children as they like without penalty or social isolation.

They receive affirmative action benefits in job placement and in school admissions. Yet they still whine and moan crying for more and more plus international sympathy. And the media complies.

Sound familiar???

Yeah, unfortunately too many gullible westerners are more than happy to lap it all up without examining the facts.

Civil Unrest seems to be a long standing feature of life under Communism in China. This article from 2004 claims 58,000 cases of civil strife in one year. This before the Financial Crisis. No wonder the Communist Boss Hu left the G8 to get a handle on the strife. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... 4Nov3.html

More ignorance. During the industrialization of western countries in the later half of the 19th century and the early 20th century before world war 1 there was constant political strife, strikes, and protests everywhere.

Communist China will Execute violent protesters. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8140492.stm

What do you expect? A lot of innocent people were hurt and killed because of them.

Starvation of the Great Leap Forward. http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-6512633.html

They stopped trying to hide that a long time ago, along with the cultural revolution. Everyone knows about it. But really, you're equating a total frak up in industrial policy with intentional murder? Doesn't fly dude.

[deMolay]

Get off the Dope. And face reality. No matter how you twist the facts. Communism is very bad for the health of its citizens. Over 100 Million have died in Communist controlled countries either by Famines, Murder, enforced labour in Gulags or just straight forward Poltical Executions. Not to mention the additional loss of life caused by the export of their Toxic Ideology to puppet states.

[bratticus]

Wee-gurhs Wobble

Uyghur

Uighar

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Clash at Factory Employing Uighurs Triggered Rioting

By JASON LEOW and GORDON FAIRCLOUGH
Wall Street Journal
JULY 8, 2009

SHAOGUAN, China -- One of the sparks that ignited Xinjiang's ethnic powder keg this week came from a toy factory here in southern China nearly 2,000 miles from Urumqi, the northwestern city hit by the riots.

The trouble started when rumors began to spread that Turkic-speaking, mainly Muslim Uighur migrant workers at the toy plant had raped Chinese women.

... snip ...

But you'll never know the real story here folks.

Meanwhile, who remembers the "China must have 8% growth minimum or civil unrest will result" statements that were carried by multiple news sources last winter?

There Are Many Ways China Can Hit 8% Growth - Part 1

... the 8% number has become something of a mythical giant. That to hit it means that everything will be fine, but to miss it means that the world is coming to an end. ...

Well 8% is an estimate based on numbers of unemployed less growth than that would create. And here it is tomorrow, with civil unrest. Did they make their growth targets? Are they all happily employed?

[outcast]

That 8% number is from 10 years ago

[bratticus]

That 8% number is from 10 years ago

Proof?