[vetusfirma]

Perhaps the American policy makers have a vision of the near future as grim as many of us do.

Perhaps they agree that we have become massively overpopulated as a planet because of cheap abundant energy.

Perhaps they've abandoned any notion of maintaining the world as we have known it.


So many people fault our leadership because they arent trying to solve an unsolvable problem.

Look beyond your wish that someone can fix the mess we're in and observe the actions that are being taken by America:

-invasion and attempt to control world's key oil reserve region

-military buildup

-disregard for established economic and financial systems.

-disregard for the american population's preparation for coming changes.

Pretty clear to me they arent planning for the future we'd like to see.

There are powerful government entities full of the BRIGHTEST minds in America. These people have the best of modern technology and unlimited resources at their disposal. It's by no means George Bush, or whoever lands in the oval office next, running the world.

Great insight. Most people won’t admit that they really don’t know what forces are at work in the world and what the goals really are. But you are absolutely correct when you say they are not working toward the future we want, because what we want, we can’t have, and they know that.

[DantesPeak]

Bottomline: The current adminsitration has effectivley sealed the fate of the dollar - it will cease to remain the world's primary reserve currency by the middle of the next decade....and much sooner if they launch another war of aggression, but this time against Iran.

Thanks much for your input here.

Could you elaborate more as to what you see the US dollar doing the next two years? In particular, in relationship to Iran, do you see a military conflict as more likley than not in this time frame?

[AlexdeLarge]

Look beyond your wish that someone can fix the mess we're in and observe the actions that are being taken by America:

-invasion and attempt to control world's key oil reserve region

-military buildup

-disregard for established economic and financial systems.

-disregard for the american population's preparation for coming changes.

Pretty clear to me they arent planning for the future we'd like to see.

There are powerful government entities full of the BRIGHTEST minds in America. These people have the best of modern technology and unlimited resources at their disposal. It's by no means George Bush, or whoever lands in the oval office next, running the world.

Exactly!! Bush/Chaney are not the idiots the main stream press makes them out to be. They are peak oil true believers!

[Nickel]

..."We're strong dollar people..." Is he serious? What kind of silly Orwellian nonsense is that? These kind of comments are idiotic. Their ideologically driven 2001 & 2003 tax cuts wrecked the dollar's valuation relative to almost every major currency - esp the euro. Oh, I forgot, this administration has absolute disdain for the reality based community.

I agree with you; I think the thing that really poleaxed the US dollar was the tax cuts, particularly with war and defence spending being so mindlessly astronomical. It's caused the US to borrow like never before. Someone has to face the tough call and either raise revenues, cut military expenses, or preferably both. It's the only way the US can recover its economic health.

[Nickel]

This is the same guy who advocated spending at every opportunity, tax cuts for every season and referred to America as an "ownership" society, when folks put zero down on homes.

All my life, I've heard about how liberals are supposed to be the spendthrifts and the conservatives are supposed to be the fiscally responsible ones. But all my life, it's been the other way around. Liberals raise revenues, look after people, and manage surpluses (except in really bad times), and conservatives cut revenues, look after machinery, and hold pool parties in the red ink they leave behind for the rest of us (and our grandchildren) to clean up. I'm always left wondering just how the right-wing press got SO good at turning this around that even a person like me is surprised when confronted by the real statistics.

[LX1]

Perhaps the American policy makers have a vision of the near future as grim as many of us do.

Perhaps they agree that we have become massively overpopulated as a planet because of cheap abundant energy.

Perhaps they've abandoned any notion of maintaining the world as we have known it.


So many people fault our leadership because they arent trying to solve an unsolvable problem.

Look beyond your wish that someone can fix the mess we're in and observe the actions that are being taken by America:

-invasion and attempt to control world's key oil reserve region

-military buildup

-disregard for established economic and financial systems.

-disregard for the american population's preparation for coming changes.

Pretty clear to me they arent planning for the future we'd like to see.

There are powerful government entities full of the BRIGHTEST minds in America. These people have the best of modern technology and unlimited resources at their disposal. It's by no means George Bush, or whoever lands in the oval office next, running the world.

WOW.

you idiots on here never fail to amaze me.

not getting into the fact that you people think peak oil is the end of the world and that we're going to go back to living like we did in the 1700s, forever.

imagine how fucked we'd be if everyone had defeatest mentalities like you delusional obsessed doomsdayers on here.

back on point.

Perhaps they agree that we have become massively overpopulated as a planet because of cheap abundant energy.

i agree the world is definitly over-populated.

So many people fault our leadership because they arent trying to solve an unsolvable problem.

what is this 'unsolvable' problem you speak of. energy? maybe depleting oil reserves is an 'unsolvable' problem. energy certainly isnt.

Look beyond your wish that someone can fix the mess we're in and observe the actions that are being taken by America:

-invasion and attempt to control world's key oil reserve region

-military buildup

-disregard for established economic and financial systems.

-disregard for the american population's preparation for coming changes.

Pretty clear to me they arent planning for the future we'd like to see.

There are powerful government entities full of the BRIGHTEST minds in America. These people have the best of modern technology and unlimited resources at their disposal. It's by no means George Bush, or whoever lands in the oval office next, running the world.

hahaha.

the biggest mistake you make here, is that you actually think our 'leaders' are looking out for the american peoples interests, and not special interests.
IE: jewish lobby, military industrial complex, big-oil etc.

moneyed corporations/interests is what dictates policy like what we're seeing today. not 'the BRIGHTEST minds in america with the best technology and unlimited resources' looking out for the peoples interests, knowing they cant solve this 'unsolvable' problem of energy supplies, therefore excersizing completely reckless un-sustainable/destructive governance.

[LX1]

Great insight. Most people won’t admit that they really don’t know what forces are at work in the world and what the goals really are. But you are absolutely correct when you say they are not working toward the future we want, because what we want, we can’t have, and they know that.

yeah, definitly.

theres absolutely no way we can ever hope of transportation or producing electricity for the masses without consuming 20 million barrels a day in oil. oil is the only source of energy that can power the world, theres absolutely no way we could ever hope to innovate or use technology already availible to drastically reduce and eventually eliminate the use of oil, and even all fossil fuels.

the world is coming to an end.

lets just give up and destroy our economy and manufacturing base like our BRILLIANT leaders are doing because there is no future. let's not try and think of solutions, just give up, it's all we can do. this is what the world has done in the past when faced with 'unsolvable' problems.
after all, our we have the BRIGHTEST minds in the world running our country and looking out for we the people, and they realise the world is coming to an end, there is no hope.

you guys are brilliant.

[LX1]

Perhaps the American policy makers have a vision of the near future as grim as many of us do.

Perhaps they agree that we have become massively overpopulated as a planet because of cheap abundant energy.

Perhaps they've abandoned any notion of maintaining the world as we have known it.


So many people fault our leadership because they arent trying to solve an unsolvable problem.

Look beyond your wish that someone can fix the mess we're in and observe the actions that are being taken by America:

-invasion and attempt to control world's key oil reserve region

-military buildup

-disregard for established economic and financial systems.

-disregard for the american population's preparation for coming changes.

Pretty clear to me they arent planning for the future we'd like to see.

There are powerful government entities full of the BRIGHTEST minds in America. These people have the best of modern technology and unlimited resources at their disposal. It's by no means George Bush, or whoever lands in the oval office next, running the world.

after re-reading this post.

i think that this is just wishful thinking on your part.

you wating to belive our 'bright' 'leaders' have got it all figured out, that there's justification for for allowing our country to degrade into the sorry state it's in now, and the even sorrier future we're headed twords.

sorry to break it to you, but our 'leaders' are just plain horrible, they arent looking our for anyones interests other than their own and the special interests they're indebted to, they don't have some brilliant master plan, and are destroying our country.

[Ferretlover]

Somebody else has noticed:

Oxfam to G-8: Warming will spread hungerAdvocacy group warns of stark 'human tragedy' as seasons shift, crops fail Mon., July 6, 2009 :
AMSTERDAM - Chronic hunger may be "the defining human tragedy of this century," as climate change causes growing seasons to shift, crops to fail, and storms and droughts to ravage fields, an advocacy group said.
Oxfam International released a report Monday as leaders of the Group of Eight wealthiest nations prepare to meet in Italy this week, with an agenda to include both food security and climate change.
It says that as the weather changes, millions of people in areas suffering food scarcity will have to give up traditional crops, possibly leading to social upheavals such as mass migrations and possible conflict over water resources. …

AP

[dorlomin]

Hippies to Dippies: were f*cked...

[deMolay]

This is major news. The Leader of China abandons the G8, in a great loss of face. To rush home to deal with civil strife which began as a fight over jobs. Jobs that were lost by the Global Depression. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1208913/

[deMolay]

The civil unrest was caused by fights over jobs in which 2 Muslim Chinese were killed. http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... index.html

[deMolay]

In this BBC report the claims are that 10,000 Chinese rioted at the Toy Factory and Hundreds were killed. Civil strife caused by the Economic Crisis in China. http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/ne ... 139780.stm

[rangerone314]

China will never give up "East Turkistan" since it is rich in oil...

[Quinny]

The thing that struck me was how 'western' the city looked, and the number of newish cars!

[outcast]

This is major news. The Leader of China abandons the G8, in a great loss of face. To rush home to deal with civil strife which began as a fight over jobs. Jobs that were lost by the Global Depression. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wor ... le1208913/

This was never about jobs, the brawl in the Guangdong toy factory was because of rumors that two Han girls were sexually assaulted by Uighur migrants, and since factory security did nothing about it the other Han workers took matters into their own hands. The riot in Xinjiang was because of that incident. And no, the BBS did not say that 10,000 people were involved in the factory fight, that was the person they were interviewing (who of course has a big agenda to push). Even so I find her figures to be rather unbelievable since it was just between two groups of workers from the same factory, no factory anywhere could accomodate that many.

[diemos]

I wonder how long it will be before the chinese leadership figures out that they can just as easily hand money to their peasants to buy stuff from their factories as hand money to american consumers to buy stuff from their factories?

[outcast]

Actually that is one of the things it has been doing as a result of the downturn.

[AgentR]

Couple messages for us in this...

China considers the G8 less important than the security and confidence of Han residents of the far West.

The Uyghurs should be punished with the utmost severity and have suffered most of the deaths. The Han... should be persuaded to play nice.

*edit: grammar - ouch

[deMolay]

Communist China will Execute violent protesters. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8140492.stm