Newfie wrote:Desu,
You are following in some pretty deep tracks. Al Bartlett, who died about a year ago, had a very similar message. But it could use a refresh to make it more accessible to the younger generation.
http://www.albartlett.org/presentations ... nergy.html
pstarr wrote:I believe he means that Bartlett's obsession with some esoteric disciplines (like algebra and geometry) might be off-putting to a certain demographic, and in need of dumbing down.
DesuMaiden wrote:pstarr wrote:I believe he means that Bartlett's obsession with some esoteric disciplines (like algebra and geometry) might be off-putting to a certain demographic, and in need of dumbing down.
I explained overpopulation in the simplest terms possible.
Ibon wrote:DesuMaiden wrote:pstarr wrote:I believe he means that Bartlett's obsession with some esoteric disciplines (like algebra and geometry) might be off-putting to a certain demographic, and in need of dumbing down.
I explained overpopulation in the simplest terms possible.
Desu, he didn't mean your presentation. He meant Bartlett's.
pstarr wrote:If it is any consolation, those among us fortunate to live in North America will probably be fine post-peak, in the coming contraction. This is still a relatively underpopulated, fertile, temperate continent. It may be gloomy here in the future, but not desperate.
Maybe not. They already seem to get along with a lot less oil per capita then the west does. I wouldn't want to be in the UK or northern Europe in the dead of winter with a shortage of fossil fuel.DesuMaiden wrote:The worst place to be when oil shortages happen is East and South Asia because they are highly populated. Those parts of the world have a very high population density, so oil shortages will be devastating.
vtsnowedin wrote:Maybe not. They already seem to get along with a lot less oil per capita then the west does. I wouldn't want to be in the UK or northern Europe in the dead of winter with a shortage of fossil fuel.DesuMaiden wrote:The worst place to be when oil shortages happen is East and South Asia because they are highly populated. Those parts of the world have a very high population density, so oil shortages will be devastating.
I don't suppose location is all that important though as the market will move oil to where the demand is so all regions will suffer when it goes short.
Newfie wrote:I see your point VT, but I don't know that it's that simple. My guess is that things will be highly complex and the many variables will make for a dynamic situation.
In short, anyone's guess.
vtsnowedin wrote:Newfie wrote:I see your point VT, but I don't know that it's that simple. My guess is that things will be highly complex and the many variables will make for a dynamic situation.
In short, anyone's guess.
Agreed. Some producing countries will undoubtedly try to stop exporting oil to save it for their own use. They will then find out that the civilized world is not all that civilized when they are cold and hungry.
onlooker wrote:this all makes sense to me. However, some have interpreted them as being written by a ruling evil cabal intent on world domination. Well if they can bring all this about, I would not mind being dominated by them
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