onlooker wrote:Can modern Capitalism survive henceforth?, Unequivically no.
the parasite must be eliminated before it kills its host.
asg70 wrote:onlooker wrote:Can modern Capitalism survive henceforth?, Unequivically no.
the parasite must be eliminated before it kills its host.
The first statement is a prediction. The second is a prescription. Too often prescriptions are masqueraded as predictions, which is why they always fail.
REAL Green wrote:Capitalism is not the problem humans are. Behavior is the issue especially with tech leading behavior. Many aspects of capitalism are sound like private property and price discovery. It is the corruptions of human behavior that drifts in to make modern capitalism a con game of private interest over the public good. This occurs with overshoot of population and consumption. It cannot be fixed. This is a trap so learn to live with it. You can make a difference in your local of people and place. The world is beyond fixing. Even talking about world problems gets the individual sidetracked from what is right in front of them to do.
REAL Green wrote:Capitalism is not the problem humans are. Behavior is the issue especially with tech leading behavior. Many aspects of capitalism are sound like private property and price discovery. It is the corruptions of human behavior that drifts in to make modern capitalism a con game of private interest over the public good. This occurs with overshoot of population and consumption. It cannot be fixed. This is a trap so learn to live with it. You can make a difference in your local of people and place. The world is beyond fixing. Even talking about world problems gets the individual sidetracked from what is right in front of them to do.
Newfie wrote:I don’t even think we have Capitalism anymore, Capitalisim has a strong vein of efficientlcy running through it. What we have now is Consumerism which relies on the members NOT being efficient but by using one shot throw away stuff in mass quantities.
Newfie wrote:We would be better if if we returned to Capitalism. Better yet would be a rational mix between Capitalism and Socialism. Each has its strengths and weaknesses. I don’t believe they are mutually exclusive, they can work in concert. Making cars? Capitalism. Health care? socialism.
Newfie wrote:What we do now is neither. Just grinding out shit for the sake of grinding out shit. Makes no sense. There is no good economic model for what we are doing. So what we are doing will eventually die, and not soon enough. But I think it still has some life left in it, how long it can hang on is anyone’s guess.
REAL Green wrote:
You as an individual can embrace decline personally and get ahead of the process but society is fated to tear itself apart. Much of this individual response is behavioral because your approach to decline is the key to lowering the destructive effects and finding your niche in the process. If you are in a bad place get out. If you can't then make arrangements. Accept you are trapped and quit making it worse. That is my take on this for what it is worth. I have been living this life now for 15 years with ups and downs of enlightenment. I was too radical in the beginning but now more in acceptance and sober in constructive change. This does not mean I transcended the process just that I am not fighting the process as much. I am still trapped and you still must battle against the entropic decay. It is just if you accept decay then you can better mitigate it by not making more decay by your own actions.
Plantagenet wrote:
It doesn't matter what the economic or political system is. When there are too many people there is too much consumerism, too much resource consumption, too much pollution and too much carbon production, resulting in too much impact on the earth and climate.
REAL Green wrote:Capitalism is not the problem humans are. Behavior is the issue especially with tech leading behavior. Many aspects of capitalism are sound like private property and price discovery. It is the corruptions of human behavior that drifts in to make modern capitalism a con game of private interest over the public good. This occurs with overshoot of population and consumption. It cannot be fixed. This is a trap so learn to live with it. You can make a difference in your local of people and place. The world is beyond fixing. Even talking about world problems gets the individual sidetracked from what is right in front of them to do.
It is a management of people problem.
Newfie wrote:Ibon said:It is a management of people problem.
Seems so obvious. But then to others it’s not.
REAL Green wrote:Newfie wrote:Ibon said:It is a management of people problem.
Seems so obvious. But then to others it’s not.
The biggest challenge in business is people management. Proper scale makes people management easier but instead scale is going bigger.
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