[rockdoc123]

there was a previous thread on this you should be able to find through the search engine. I posted some of the background geological information. If you bump that thread with specific questions I could likely answer.

[rogerhb]

There once was a theory that the Falklands War was all about oil.

[ubercynicmeister]

Shows the desperation that now exists. I can imagine the conditions in trying to explore and drill for Oil in Antarctica...Wow! And this is slightly before the Peak..imagine what the desperate measures will be taken when the peak of Hubbert's Peak really kicks in with real resource depletion.

Hi Rockdoc!

How's things?

[rogerhb]

...of course when the ice melts due to GW it will be easier to drill

[Subjectivist]

...of course when the ice melts due to GW it will be easier to drill

Won't be long now.

[PrestonSturges]

Antarctica used to be connected to Australia I believe, but at that time it was nowhere near the South Pole.

[SeaGypsy]

I think it was still near the south pole for some of the time it was connected to Australia, but the Gondwana moved latitude north & south thousands of miles, or the poles moved as the tectonics played out. Either way logically it probably has had plenty enough time in warmer climes to have trapped hydrocarbons.

[Tanada]

I think it was still near the south pole for some of the time it was connected to Australia, but the Gondwana moved latitude north & south thousands of miles, or the poles moved as the tectonics played out. Either way logically it probably has had plenty enough time in warmer climes to have trapped hydrocarbons.

Actually for a time it was connected to both Australia on one side and South America on the other. All of the Marsupials found in the modern world share a common ancestor that probably originated in Antarctica or South America, some descendants survived in South America and then moved on into North America when the Straits of Panama closed around 3 Million ybp. Those are the Opossum still common in this part of North America (the Great Lakes ecoregion). When the straits closed placental mammals from North America moved south at the same time and displaced some of the South American marsupials the same way that cats, rats, foxes and rabbits imported to Australia did there.

http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default ... upials.jpg

[Plantagenet]

Why drill Antarctica when you can frack North Dakota?

[ennui2]

I haven't read anything on Antartica, but I believe drilling for oil is banned there. I don't think the region has been explored either but chances are there could be a gigafield out there. While in the current political climate, drilling on the continent is out of the question, this could change rapidly once we are in a big oilcrisis. Though still, environmental groups will heavily oppose drilling in the antartic, crisis or not. They will probably succeed in delaying any development for some time so I think we shouldn't expect antartic oil to hit the market before 2020.

Any thoughts, sources on this subject?

Yeah Bas, you were wrong. Those damn hippy environmentalists had nothing to do with it. It's just Mother Earth's oily teat going dry.

Do you really think Bas is going to read your reply to his message from 11 years ago?

I think he's off gassing up at $<2.00 a gallon while you keep necroing peak oil doomer threads.

[AdamB]

I haven't read anything on Antartica, but I believe drilling for oil is banned there. I don't think the region has been explored either but chances are there could be a gigafield out there. While in the current political climate, drilling on the continent is out of the question, this could change rapidly once we are in a big oilcrisis.

Indeed Mr Bas. That "crisis" was defined as approximately $150/bbl, and the consequence was a dip into the resource pyramid of such magnitude that the Saudi's and there plans for defending price against the onslaught of new production was laid low, and they are forced to defend market share against the flood of oil filling storage as we speak.

Strange times indeed.

Though still, environmental groups will heavily oppose drilling in the antartic, crisis or not. They will probably succeed in delaying any development for some time so I think we shouldn't expect antartic oil to hit the market before 2020.

Any thoughts, sources on this subject?

Bas

The USGS has more oil wrapped up within new discoveries, field appreciation, and now the unconventionals, then the world can use in the next 30 years. So we can safely put off worrying about drilling in the Antarctica for now.

[Tanada]

Fellow Members, Bas passed away several years ago, in May 2010. He was a friend of mine, please show due respect and don't use him as a forum football.

[Synapsid]

Tanada,

The opossum is "still common" in the Great Lakes ecoregion, is it? The things are all over the place on the West Coast (and throughout the South)--they crossed the Golden Gate by 1962, and were on Vancouver Island in British Columbia last I looked. They caused a stir when they showed up in southern Ontario, but as hey have no hair on their tails they may be constrained by winter cold in their march northward out of South America. Eastern winters are much more brutal than ours.

My mother's old copy of The Joy of Cooking had a recipe for opossum.

They aren't aggressive, and do little damage, and are pretty much tolerated around here. They aren't bright and show up as road kill on the interstates, but they are resourceful. I know of one guy who had one for a pet; it used to ride around on his shoulder. They have adorable ears.

We now return to our regular programming.

[Tanada]

Tanada,

The opossum is "still common" in the Great Lakes ecoregion, is it? The things are all over the place on the West Coast (and throughout the South)--they crossed the Golden Gate by 1962, and were on Vancouver Island in British Columbia last I looked. They caused a stir when they showed up in southern Ontario, but as hey have no hair on their tails they may be constrained by winter cold in their march northward out of South America. Eastern winters are much more brutal than ours.

My mother's old copy of The Joy of Cooking had a recipe for opossum.

They aren't aggressive, and do little damage, and are pretty much tolerated around here. They aren't bright and show up as road kill on the interstates, but they are resourceful. I know of one guy who had one for a pet; it used to ride around on his shoulder. They have adorable ears.

We now return to our regular programming.

My oldest brother used to trap them and sells the furs for spending money, a few years after he graduated one of my high school classmates took over his territory. That was in southern Michigan about 25 miles north of the Ohio state line on a creek that feeds into Lake Erie.

[Rod_Cloutier]

If catastrophic climate change wasn't a concern (Which of course it is), it's likely that offshore Antarctic drilling would likely be possible. Similar to the Hiberna project off of Newfoundland, mobile drill platforms built to withstand iceburgs:

The Topsides is supported by a massive concrete pedestal called the Gravity Base Structure (GBS) which was constructed in Bull Arm, Newfoundland & Labrador. The GBS, which sits on the ocean floor, is 111 metres high and has storage capacity for 1.3 million barrels of crude oil in its 85-metre-high caisson. The GBS is specially designed to withstand the impact of sea ice and icebergs to allow for year-round production

[PrestonSturges]

My oldest brother used to trap them and sells the furs for spending money, a few years after he graduated one of my high school classmates took over his territory. That was in southern Michigan about 25 miles north of the Ohio state line on a creek that feeds into Lake Erie.

They are pretty much everywhere. I always like telling immigrants about the white marsupial with a rat tail and big teeth that only comes out at night, and they take it seriously. If someone told me that, I'd be like "Oh you are so full of shit, you can't fool me!" Many people have a strange fear of them as if they are dangerous, when really they are about as aggressive, fast, smart, and dangerous as a box turtle.

[ROCKMAN]

Maybe Yankee possums are differrernt then southern ones. LOL. Sometimes when hunting I would run across a nasty one. I always shot them for fear they had rabies. Once a coworker had to haul his kids inside when one SLOWLY charged them in their yard. He wanted to show the kids what playing possum meant. The possum did not do his part. LOL.

[AdamB]

I haven't read anything on Antartica, but I believe drilling for oil is banned there. I don't think the region has been explored either but chances are there could be a gigafield out there. While in the current political climate, drilling on the continent is out of the question, this could change rapidly once we are in a big oilcrisis. Though still, environmental groups will heavily oppose drilling in the antartic, crisis or not. They will probably succeed in delaying any development for some time so I think we shouldn't expect antartic oil to hit the market before 2020.

Any thoughts, sources on this subject?

Yeah Bas, you were wrong. Those damn hippy environmentalists had nothing to do with it. It's just Mother Earth's oily teat going dry.

Do you really think Bas is going to read your reply to his message from 11 years ago?

This snapshots into the past are wildly interesting. This is how the world was once viewed, and in a decade, those views have been blasted apart by the effort Rockman and his kind put into making darn sure that, for a price, the consumer will get what they want.

Validating economists, the geoscientists who never fell for the peak oil induced collapse scenarios, the resource wars or the 50% yearly inflation or whatever else was the doom porn of the day. Including the need to drill in the Antarctic.

So who knows if Bas is around, or can read, or even cares any more as he enjoys low prices, a new job in the still BAUing along economy, or his peak oil wanderings were just a phase, before he learned better, laughed it off like Savinar and became an astrologist, or school teacher.

Why does it bother you, this examination of old ideas, debunked by the passage of time?

I think he's off gassing up at $<2.00 a gallon while you keep necroing peak oil doomer threads.

I don't know what necroing means, and hopefully he is laughing it up over how this all turned out. All that angst for nothing.